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Understood, but so what? Would that in any way exonerate any of Custers actions his final two days? He turned down heavy support in the form of Gatling guns good move, bad move, more importantly why? The last 36 hours he pushed mercilessly in what the Indians to a man said was one of if not the hottest period they could remember. Why?

Most importantly as supreme command he did not listen to his scouts as to the number of enemy combatants nor did he pause long enough to send out any other means of intelligence gathering to get a more positive estimation on the number of enemy.
In the face of overwhelming forces the guy divided his command not once, not twice, but into fourths when you factor in the supply train.
It doesn’t matter who hated who, what happened on any other date, what his war record was, nothing matters but a series of very bad, devastating decisions that were made by one person those last two days and Custer alone made those decisions. That’s the facts.
We can argue, we can listen to interpreters, scholars, Indians, whoever but the causes to those poor decisions at this point are anyone’s guess.

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Sorry 7… if that response wandered from the direction you were trying to go.

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With all due respect, (I know you have spent a helluva lotta time there).
Boston Custer, I believe the General’s nephew, had time to pass Benteen’s command on his way to the pack train for a fresh mount.
He made it back in time to die with George and Tom on Last Stand Hill.
This was about the same time Benteen received the orders from Custer.
“Big village, come quick, bring packs”
I give Colonel Benteen a helluva lotta credit for what he did on Reno hill, he held that perimeter together. Reno was in no shape to do it.
But I still believe that he had time to reach, possibly save Custer.
He had no desire to help Custer. He thought Custer had sent him on a goose chase to keep him outta the fight
My take is that Reno choked on his charge, and lost his head completely after Bloody Knife’s brains splashed his face.
When Benteen got to Reno Hill he couldn’t give a schit about Custer.
Weir asked Reno, in Benteen’s presence for permission to go to Custer’s aid.
With no answer, Weir went on his own. His company, and eventually the rest of the regiment, followed. (Probably to save face).

Do you know where he was and what he did?

Yes

If Custer had taken Gatling Guns, he would have survived. It would have taken him two more days to get there, dragging Gatling guns with condemned cavalry mounts. Rough country is not easily navigable with such equipment…

What was it and where was he?

I don't know.

Didn’t know that.


Go look at who Custer fought, and whipped, at Gettysburg. And he did it on a horse. Supposedly, it was Lee’s best cavalry man.

July 1-3 1863?

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Well my ancestors were Confederates, so fugk Custer.

Curley, one of Custer's Crow scouts was a surviving witness and gave his account of what he saw. He is buried there in the National Cemetery.

Of course Crook's force mostly survived that's how they were able to return to the fort.

Appomattox, Custer captured Lees artillery and convinced Lee to meet Grant at the courthouse and meet the terms of surrender and end the Civil war. General Phil Sheridan purchased the table the treaty was signed on and presented it to Libby Custer…


In April 1865, the Rebels had surrendered to the Yankees, thus ending the Civil War. George Custer arrived on the other side of the war a hero. His actions at the Battle of the 1st Bull Run and subsequent heroic efforts helped bring about victory for the North. Shortly after the official signing of the South’s declaration of surrender Major General Phil Sheridan sent Elizabeth Custer a gift along with a note of explanation. It read, “My dear Madam – I respectfully present to you the small writing table on which the conditions for the surrender of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia were written by Lt. General Grant – and permit me to say, Madam, that there is scarecely an individual in our service who has contributed more to bring this about than your gallant husband.”

Capt Benteen's hatred of Custer took a giant leap when Custer abandoned Major Elliot and his group at the Washita. Later in the spring, they found all their remains, after they had been killed by the Cheyennes.

Elliott left with 16 men without orders to attack a separate band of Cheyenne. When the Washita battle was complete another band of Cheyenne from farther down the river was observed attacking Custer’s battalion. Late in the day and vulnerable to a separate attack, Custer feigned an attack to set the attacking Indians back enough to allow his escape.

Major Elliott, leaving without orders, sealed his own fate as Custer protected his remaining battalion as they retreated, leaving Elliott for the sake of the protection of his immediate command. Benteen, a friend of Elliott, never forgave Custer…

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Iow, you are stating Custer was instrumental in maintaining the union, and in retrospect (today), that was a good thing?