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Fixin’ stuff that ain’t broke. You said a mouthful there Dan. I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to keep ammunition around that won't work in the vast majority firearms today. Its a range novelty. No, it serves a very specific purpose. It's loaded and kept under the bed. If someone(s) breaks into your home you'll have maximum opportunities to stop them. Not sure what's so hard to understand. ...But I guess to be rounding the corner on 60k posts here, a guy needs to comment on anything and everything...carry on. Someone has buyer's remorse already lol
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Why would you use a mini shell for self defense? The advantage of a purpose built pump gun in shorty shells is obvious. Capacity. That's a drawback for pump guns with tubular magazines, which is why so much emphasis is placed on fast reloading under fire. Increase capacity, and decrease the urgency for fast reload under fire training. My 590A1L has a 9 round tube. That's if I'm dumb enough to grab the shotgun for home defense lolWhat if it's for another family member who may be home alone that isn't so proficient at handgun self-defense?
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Never understood the purpose of mini shells To send people in ban states to jail because their previously legal firearms now hold too many rounds. (that and for people who don't want to hurt their girly hands shooting their Shockwave) 
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Why would you use a mini shell for self defense? The advantage of a purpose built pump gun in shorty shells is obvious. Capacity. That's a drawback for pump guns with tubular magazines, which is why so much emphasis is placed on fast reloading under fire. Increase capacity, and decrease the urgency for fast reload under fire training. My 590A1L has a 9 round tube. That's if I'm dumb enough to grab the shotgun for home defense lolWhat if it's for another family member who may be home alone that isn't so proficient at handgun self-defense? Someone set said family member up for failure. Also, if you have enough room to swing that shotgun, you have enough room to swing a 16" AR.
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Never understood the purpose of mini shells To send people in ban states to jail because their previously legal firearms now hold too many rounds. (that and for people who don't want to hurt their girly hands shooting their Shockwave) Ignorance of the law is no excuse....nor is plain ignorance. How many times do you expect to have a home gun inspection? And what if this firearm is put in place for a girl to utilize? Carry on.
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Hmmm
9 mini shot shell with #4 = 63 projectiles
Regular 2 3/4 shell has 27 #4
So a 7 shot regular has 189 projectiles
Think ill stick with normal
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Why would you use a mini shell for self defense? The advantage of a purpose built pump gun in shorty shells is obvious. Capacity. That's a drawback for pump guns with tubular magazines, which is why so much emphasis is placed on fast reloading under fire. Increase capacity, and decrease the urgency for fast reload under fire training. My 590A1L has a 9 round tube. That's if I'm dumb enough to grab the shotgun for home defense lolWhat if it's for another family member who may be home alone that isn't so proficient at handgun self-defense? Someone set said family member up for failure. Also, if you have enough room to swing that shotgun, you have enough room to swing a 16" AR. But you dont have to precisely aim a shotgun just point general direction
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Why would you use a mini shell for self defense? The advantage of a purpose built pump gun in shorty shells is obvious. Capacity. That's a drawback for pump guns with tubular magazines, which is why so much emphasis is placed on fast reloading under fire. Increase capacity, and decrease the urgency for fast reload under fire training. My 590A1L has a 9 round tube. That's if I'm dumb enough to grab the shotgun for home defense lolWhat if it's for another family member who may be home alone that isn't so proficient at handgun self-defense? Someone set said family member up for failure. Also, if you have enough room to swing that shotgun, you have enough room to swing a 16" AR. Weak sauce answer. Against multiple charging attackers I'd trust my daughters life behind a 12 gauge pump before an AR. Facts.
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Why would you use a mini shell for self defense? The advantage of a purpose built pump gun in shorty shells is obvious. Capacity. That's a drawback for pump guns with tubular magazines, which is why so much emphasis is placed on fast reloading under fire. Increase capacity, and decrease the urgency for fast reload under fire training. My 590A1L has a 9 round tube. That's if I'm dumb enough to grab the shotgun for home defense lolWhat if it's for another family member who may be home alone that isn't so proficient at handgun self-defense? Someone set said family member up for failure. Also, if you have enough room to swing that shotgun, you have enough room to swing a 16" AR. But you dont have to precisely aim a shotgun just point general direction Precisely.
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Fixin’ stuff that ain’t broke. You said a mouthful there Dan. I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to keep ammunition around that won't work in the vast majority firearms today. Its a range novelty. No, it serves a very specific purpose. It's loaded and kept under the bed. If someone(s) breaks into your home you'll have maximum opportunities to stop them. Not sure what's so hard to understand. ...But I guess to be rounding the corner on 60k posts here, a guy needs to comment on anything and everything...carry on. Someone has buyer's remorse already lol Precisely why I only shoot 22 shorts. More opportunity.
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Why would you use a mini shell for self defense? The advantage of a purpose built pump gun in shorty shells is obvious. Capacity. That's a drawback for pump guns with tubular magazines, which is why so much emphasis is placed on fast reloading under fire. Increase capacity, and decrease the urgency for fast reload under fire training. My 590A1L has a 9 round tube. That's if I'm dumb enough to grab the shotgun for home defense lolWhat if it's for another family member who may be home alone that isn't so proficient at handgun self-defense? Someone set said family member up for failure. Also, if you have enough room to swing that shotgun, you have enough room to swing a 16" AR. But you dont have to precisely aim a shotgun just point general direction How much spread occurs with your selected load in 30 feet?
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Why would you use a mini shell for self defense? The advantage of a purpose built pump gun in shorty shells is obvious. Capacity. That's a drawback for pump guns with tubular magazines, which is why so much emphasis is placed on fast reloading under fire. Increase capacity, and decrease the urgency for fast reload under fire training. My 590A1L has a 9 round tube. That's if I'm dumb enough to grab the shotgun for home defense lolWhat if it's for another family member who may be home alone that isn't so proficient at handgun self-defense? Someone set said family member up for failure. Also, if you have enough room to swing that shotgun, you have enough room to swing a 16" AR. Weak sauce answer. Against multiple charging attackers I'd trust my daughters life behind a 12 gauge pump before an AR. Facts. I can't tell if you are trolling or not. Either way, that was pretty funny.
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Why would you use a mini shell for self defense? The advantage of a purpose built pump gun in shorty shells is obvious. Capacity. That's a drawback for pump guns with tubular magazines, which is why so much emphasis is placed on fast reloading under fire. Increase capacity, and decrease the urgency for fast reload under fire training. My 590A1L has a 9 round tube. That's if I'm dumb enough to grab the shotgun for home defense lolWhat if it's for another family member who may be home alone that isn't so proficient at handgun self-defense? Someone set said family member up for failure. Also, if you have enough room to swing that shotgun, you have enough room to swing a 16" AR. But you dont have to precisely aim a shotgun just point general direction Precisely. With 20-30 rounds available neither do I
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Just think of all the rounds you could cycle through the action to scare off the bad guys!
And if that didn't work....just point it in the general direction and pop one off.
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I have one of these for home defence, the reason I chose this is because it holds 25 rounds of minis and my wife can handle it, or 15 2 3/4 I would rather have the 10 extra rounds. I read somewhere that the minis are 75% the power of a 2 3/4 shell. https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/shotguns/ksg/
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I have one of these for home defence, the reason I chose this is because it holds 25 rounds of minis and my wife can handle it, or 15 2 3/4 I would rather have the 10 extra rounds. I read somewhere that the minis are 75% the power of a 2 3/4 shell. https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/shotguns/ksg/You're making perfect sense. It'll never fly here.
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Yeah...Keltec....
Glad you like it.
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