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As one of those prick managers (major oil) I always felt that if an employee can quit on a whim I can toss him/her on a whim. It worked well in my last 10 years abroad. Yup. You hit the nail on the head and I totally agree. Of course it meant once I learned it was that way I ended up with no dedication to a place that would just dump you after busting your tail. Although it gave me more time at home and home and family is what life is really about. Work is just a PITA aside to pay bills. I quit going in early or staying late. And just did my job. They still got more from me than most 8 hour a day workers but it is what it is. I'd prefer no contract at all and thats the way it should be IMHO. That way nothing is held over either parties head. Well said!
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I was laid off in 2012. All I'll say is, it was one of the best things that ever happened to me, I found a better job, still at it.
Hang in there.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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My uncle got laid off recently. He was of the same mindset. Hard worker, and a good man. His company is top-heavy with management/admin people that were added after the first buyout. They'll learn, and I hope that he will be hired back when they learn that talent and that institutional knowledge is priceless.
I wish you all the best sir. Unfortunately that’s not the way it works. They probably hired two more office employees when they laid him off. To the OP, you need to look at Williston ND or West Texas. For long term employment I'd suggest the vast Houston/Gulf Coast area refining and petrochemical multiplexes. Lots of work in Houston
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This time of the year we get several “temp” welders.
Not inexperienced, just temporary.
These are the guys that chase shutdowns and turn arounds.
Come home for the holidays and want to make a couple checks…
Holidays over, they are gone back on the road.
Dave
�The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it.� Lou Holtz
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Hard for me to comprehend, getting laid off. I worked 39 years for same company, many jobs and different states. Never occurred to me that I’d get laid off.
Good luck to those that do get laid off. I guess this is not the worst time for that, with a decent job market.
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As one of those prick managers (major oil) I always felt that if an employee can quit on a whim I can toss him/her on a whim. It worked well in my last 10 years abroad. Yup. You hit the nail on the head and I totally agree. Of course it meant once I learned it was that way I ended up with no dedication to a place that would just dump you after busting your tail. Although it gave me more time at home and home and family is what life is really about. Work is just a PITA aside to pay bills. I quit going in early or staying late. And just did my job. They still got more from me than most 8 hour a day workers but it is what it is. I'd prefer no contract at all and thats the way it should be IMHO. That way nothing is held over either parties head. Well said! Ironic that it’s accepted to think that way for employers. Hire when you want, lay off when you want, RIF, when you want. Decide to send guys home early or just not work tomorrow. Do wage surveys, pay the least an employee will work for. The opposite is expected from employees. Be early, stay late, give 100%. Darn lucky in my current position. Pay is great, considering everything. That’s not why I’m lucky. Handed orders and ask when/if they can be done. Never questioned, if I’m not busy they assume it’s under control, no HR department! No HR department!!! Yeah, it’s good
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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Sorry to hear. I know how it feels, layoffs are common in my industry.
If you get cut, don’t take it personally. It’s not a statement on your job skills.
Both times I got cut it led to better opportunities. It will for you, too.
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Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Sorry to hear that. I thought the missile deal was a few years out according to local paper.
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Bidenomics..... hey Miller did you vote for Biden or Tester? while biden is a pos, cheap money for to long has a lot to do with inflation and the slow down we are seeing now. I don't know of any elected politician that can keep things at just a steady growth, its always boom and then bust. perception is reality, if trump gets in things will probably start looking up. positive thinking and attitude goes along way with people feeling confident......bob Brother Bob, While I cannot disagree with what you said. Things go much deeper than that. We are experiencing crony capitalism mixed with socialism and heading for communism.... Unions are a large part of this trend. We need to return to true capitalism to fix our economic woes... Miller is a staunch union man and tester supporter, therefore he is about to suffer from the consequences of his ignorance! STUPID SHOULD HURT
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Miller should relocate to Calif or Washington... I hear jobs are available there
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Didn't take long. Got my pink slip at noon and got a new job by 2 pm. Local contractor that I worked for a couple times as an apprentice.
Irfubar, you got issues dude. Ish you's, not ish me's.
The current base project is for a weapon storage facility before the actual missile upgrade itself.
It isn't energy that kills, its holes.
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About any town in central Kansas will have need for skilled tradesmen. Eastern Ks near KS city is really growing and needing skilled people.
Best of luck in your search sir.
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Glad you landed on your feet.
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Didn't take long. Got my pink slip at noon and got a new job by 2 pm. Local contractor that I worked for a couple times as an apprentice.
Irfubar, you got issues dude. Ish you's, not ish me's.
The current base project is for a weapon storage facility before the actual missile upgrade itself. You are correct.... I have serious issues with leftist destroying our country...
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Its all right to be white!!
Stupidity left unattended will run rampant
Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
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I love when new doors open up.
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Didn't take long. Got my pink slip at noon and got a new job by 2 pm. Local contractor that I worked for a couple times as an apprentice.
Irfubar, you got issues dude. Ish you's, not ish me's.
The current base project is for a weapon storage facility before the actual missile upgrade itself. What is your skill?
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
--Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice.
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As one of those prick managers (major oil) I always felt that if an employee can quit on a whim I can toss him/her on a whim. It worked well in my last 10 years abroad. Yup. You hit the nail on the head and I totally agree. Of course it meant once I learned it was that way I ended up with no dedication to a place that would just dump you after busting your tail. Although it gave me more time at home and home and family is what life is really about. Work is just a PITA aside to pay bills. I quit going in early or staying late. And just did my job. They still got more from me than most 8 hour a day workers but it is what it is. I'd prefer no contract at all and thats the way it should be IMHO. That way nothing is held over either parties head. Well said! Ironic that it’s accepted to think that way for employers. Hire when you want, lay off when you want, RIF, when you want. Decide to send guys home early or just not work tomorrow. Do wage surveys, pay the least an employee will work for. The opposite is expected from employees. Be early, stay late, give 100%. Darn lucky in my current position. Pay is great, considering everything. That’s not why I’m lucky. Handed orders and ask when/if they can be done. Never questioned, if I’m not busy they assume it’s under control, no HR department! No HR department!!! Yeah, it’s good Once the vast majority of companies get above a certain size (what size depends on company culture and leadership), people become just a number, - just another input on a spreadsheet. However, not every company is like that, and even some large companies have a type of informal social contract with their employees. I was amazed at what some very large companies did for their impacted employees in the Houston area after Hurricane Harvey. Companies that size are bound to have layoffs when business conditions get bad, but not every company operates on a boom-bust hiring-layoff rollercostar. It's a two-way street, and loyalty by the company often is reciprocated by loyalty by the employees. YMMV
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Didn't take long. Got my pink slip at noon and got a new job by 2 pm. Local contractor that I worked for a couple times as an apprentice.
Irfubar, you got issues dude. Ish you's, not ish me's.
The current base project is for a weapon storage facility before the actual missile upgrade itself. What is your skill? Journeyman inside wireman. Licensed in Montana.
It isn't energy that kills, its holes.
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