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...and for Mr. STRS's benefit, the so-called "supremacy clause" (which has nothing to do with the Tenth Amendment in the first place) does not contradict or nullify the rest of the contents of the document in any way, no matter what you've been led to believe. Not Really
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Supremacy is restricted to those areas where exclusive power is delegated to the Federal Government. It doesn't nullify the 10th Amendment, which came later, and thus supersedes it as its clarification.
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I get the fact that the Tenth Amendment is quite clear - States Rights do not supercede Federal Laws. LOL. Read the 10th one more time. Wait, no---read it for the FIRST time. Thank you! I can’t fathom the amount of indoctrination necessary for one to read plain text and interpret it to be a full 180 degrees opposite of what it says. Astounding.
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I get the fact that the Tenth Amendment is quite clear - States Rights do not supercede Federal Laws. LOL. Read the 10th one more time. Wait, no---read it for the FIRST time. Thank you! I can’t fathom the amount of indoctrination necessary for one to read plain text and interpret it to be a full 180 degrees opposite of what it says. Astounding. Truly.
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I believe they were relying on past judgements especially the judgement Obama got in Arizona when the governor, Brewer I think, attempted to curtail illegal migration and the SC sided with the administration in saying that it's the government's responsibility to protect the borders. They ignored the Constitution then and Barrett and Roberts ignored it now. The court is a minefield that's difficult to navigate. The question and how it's defended are important and the outcome allows for too much personal beliefs to sway consideration on Constitutional grounds. Whatever reason they are dead wrong on their interpretation. i think the Soros foundation started this mess with the consent of our government long before Trump came to office. Obama was culpable in bringing migrants into America to dilute our society. Since then it has snowballed with many foundations like the Catholic one and even our own government's clandestine operations in South America to transplant people. our society and our culture is being destroyed and it's far past time to put an end to it. The administration has proven it wont.
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Read that $2 Billion came from the Federal Gov. somewhere. FEMA for sure, and who knows what other alphabet cartel kicked in. Once you understand that future Justices , DA's and Presidents alike, are all grown like timber tracts, selected and shaped for years to spontaneously appear just perfect at the recommendation of trusted advisors, who know assuredly they are reliable agents of their private designs, it's no surprise how they disappoint the hopeful. Robert's illegally adopted Irish girls has him chained in place for good. Kavanaugh and Barrett are devout Jesuits, a class of conquering sneaks with immense power world wide, and extensive holdings in China. That's the beauty of Democracy!
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I believe they were relying on past judgements especially the judgement Obama got in Arizona when the governor, Brewer I think, attempted to curtail illegal migration and the SC sided with the administration in saying that it's the government's responsibility to protect the borders. They ignored the Constitution then and Barrett and Roberts ignored it now. The court is a minefield that's difficult to navigate. The question and how it's defended are important and the outcome allows for too much personal beliefs to sway consideration on Constitutional grounds. Whatever reason they are dead wrong on their interpretation.
i think the Soros foundation started this mess with the consent of our government long before Trump came to office. Obama was culpable in bringing migrants into America to dilute our society. Since then it has snowballed with many foundations like the Catholic one and even our own government's clandestine operations in South America to transplant people. our society and our culture is being destroyed and it's far past time to put an end to it. The administration has proven it wont. The majority opinion was based on longstanding court rulings that grants the federal government the sole and Constructional authority for border security. If the Texas AG decides to challenge that ruling, he will be arguing against precedent and that's never an easy path. While I applaud Abbott's efforts, he needs to find another tactic or he needs Congress to do their job. If the stories are true and Trump is exerting pressure on Congress not to act (folks accused Reagan of the same during the Iranian hostage crisis) then the madness will continue until there is a change in command and policy.
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#1 It is our God given right to be secure.
When those whose job it is to secure us (our borders) fail to do so it is our God given right to do it ourselves.
God and only God grants us this right not a person, government or government entity has the right to deny us our security.
We as a free people must however involve ourselves with our own security and freedom when those that should be doing so fail, we can no longer sit on the sidelines doing nothing. We must secure ourselves then remove those that fail to do their jobs, it is that simple and that complex. Otherwise how can we call ourselves free ?
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...and for Mr. STRS's benefit, the so-called "supremacy clause" (which has nothing to do with the Tenth Amendment in the first place) does not contradict or nullify the rest of the contents of the document in any way, no matter what you've been led to believe. Not ReallyYeah, really. Are you truly that lacking in reasoning ability or are you just being obtuse?
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I get the fact that the Tenth Amendment is quite clear - States Rights do not supercede Federal Laws. LOL. Read the 10th one more time. Wait, no---read it for the FIRST time. Maybe he could get a ten year old to explain it to him.
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I believe they were relying on past judgements especially the judgement Obama got in Arizona when the governor, Brewer I think, attempted to curtail illegal migration and the SC sided with the administration in saying that it's the government's responsibility to protect the borders. They ignored the Constitution then and Barrett and Roberts ignored it now. The court is a minefield that's difficult to navigate. The question and how it's defended are important and the outcome allows for too much personal beliefs to sway consideration on Constitutional grounds. Whatever reason they are dead wrong on their interpretation.
i think the Soros foundation started this mess with the consent of our government long before Trump came to office. Obama was culpable in bringing migrants into America to dilute our society. Since then it has snowballed with many foundations like the Catholic one and even our own government's clandestine operations in South America to transplant people. our society and our culture is being destroyed and it's far past time to put an end to it. The administration has proven it wont. The majority opinion was based on longstanding court rulings that grants the federal government the sole and Constructional authority for border security. If the Texas AG decides to challenge that ruling, he will be arguing against precedent and that's never an easy path. While I applaud Abbott's efforts, he needs to find another tactic or he needs Congress to do their job. If the stories are true and Trump is exerting pressure on Congress not to act (folks accused Reagan of the same during the Iranian hostage crisis) then the madness will continue until there is a change in command and policy. Everydamnthing[with some here] boils down to one thing. Just say it out loud for Pete's Sake: It's Trumps fault!
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Read that $2 Billion came from the Federal Gov. somewhere. FEMA for sure, and who knows what other alphabet cartel kicked in. Once you understand that future Justices , DA's and Presidents alike, are all grown like timber tracts, selected and shaped for years to spontaneously appear just perfect at the recommendation of trusted advisors, who know assuredly they are reliable agents of their private designs, it's no surprise how they disappoint the hopeful. Robert's illegally adopted Irish girls has him chained in place for good. Kavanaugh and Barrett are devout Jesuits, a class of conquering sneaks with immense power world wide, and extensive holdings in China. That's the beauty of Democracy! Your words 'grown like timber tracts' are great. I've read up on many politicians whose family lineage goes back a century or more. The family members who don't hold office will be in some type of government position/job. You're right, they're groomed along the way to be part of the cabal. #1 It is our God given right to be secure.
When those whose job it is to secure us (our borders) fail to do so it is our God given right to do it ourselves.
God and only God grants us this right not a person, government or government entity has the right to deny us our security.
We as a free people must however involve ourselves with our own security and freedom when those that should be doing so fail, we can no longer sit on the sidelines doing nothing. We must secure ourselves then remove those that fail to do their jobs, it is that simple and that complex. Otherwise how can we call ourselves free ? Agree..
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When Trump selected her I knew he made a big mistake. Women are generally unreliable in such roles. So, you are saying Roberts is a woman - who knew!
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She votes in opposition to your opinion one time and she's a POS? Opinion you airhead? In opposition to the constitution dipschit.
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No it’s not Trump’s fault. It’s decades of liberal court rulings allowed to stand. Rulings like the Roe decision that murdered millions of babies. Rulings that twist the Constitution into something never envisioned or intended.
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...and for Mr. STRS's benefit, the so-called "supremacy clause" (which has nothing to do with the Tenth Amendment in the first place) does not contradict or nullify the rest of the contents of the document in any way, no matter what you've been led to believe. Not ReallyThe Federal Constitution was, at least according to the Federalist Papers, meant specifically to curtail and limit the size and scope of the Federal government by explicitly listing the central government’s powers, outside of which it was forbidden to roam. The Supremacy Clause and the 10th Amendment do not contradict one another, but delineate where federal powers start/stop and where states rights start/stop. When thinking through the Constitution, if you have an idea that puts two parts of it at odds, it’s due to your misunderstanding of the text and you ought to go back and re-read it.
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...and for Mr. STRS's benefit, the so-called "supremacy clause" (which has nothing to do with the Tenth Amendment in the first place) does not contradict or nullify the rest of the contents of the document in any way, no matter what you've been led to believe. Not ReallyThe Federal Constitution was, at least according to the Federalist Papers, meant specifically to curtail and limit the size and scope of the Federal government by explicitly listing the central government’s powers, outside of which it was forbidden to roam. The Supremacy Clause and the 10th Amendment do not contradict one another, but delineate where federal powers start/stop and where states rights start/stop. When thinking through the Constitution, if you have an idea that puts two parts of it at odds, it’s due to your misunderstanding of the text and you ought to go back and re-read it. You're so much nicer than I am. Not that it's a hard thing by any means...LOL.
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