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Have always prefed BDL. Never cared to Jack all the shells through the gun to empty it. Every time you empty the gun you got to jack more shells Push a button and dump the shells in hand. Works Everytime. Dave
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“Often”, I don’t open the floor plate often, but percentage wise, when I do, it happens too often. If your spring and follower are landing on the ground often, there may be other issues to address. That shouldn’t be happening. My thoughts too. I can't ever remember having a spring or follower come off a floorplate on several rifle brands I've owned in BDL configuration. Heck, I'm not sure I've ever dropped a round on the ground either in 40 years of hunting with BDL rifles. I don't care for having to run the bolt to unload, so put me in the BDL group.
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My first centerfire rifle was a Herter's Model U-9 with a hinged floorplate. It was another 10 years before I bought another rifle, and then I got two Mauser Mark X rifles with hinged floorplates. I got used to them. Then another 30 years later I bought a Rem 700 ADL. I only had that rifle for a few years until I replaced it with a Rem 700 BDL, paartly because I wanted the hinged floorplate. Since then I bought another Rem 700 BDL, another Mauser with a hinged floorplate, and 3 Wby Vanguards with hinged floorplates.
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Is ADL and BDL an acronym for something?
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“Often”, I don’t open the floor plate often, but percentage wise, when I do, it happens too often. Sounds like a trip to the mechanic is in order. Never seen this in many times of dropping a floorplate on Remington, Ruger or Winchester rifles.
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Is ADL and BDL an acronym for something? Average deluxe; better deluxe.
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I have plenty of both, ADL and BDL, and I prefer a blind magazine on a hunting rig.
I have a few with DBMs, as well, but I've never warmed up to them. None of my DBMs were flush fitting, so that might change things. The magazine hanging down is just awkward.
Edited to add... Well, actually, my Ruger American Ranch has a flush BDM. I don't have any qualms with it.
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Have both styles. Prefer ADL for hunting.
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Is ADL and BDL an acronym for something? Average deluxe; better deluxe. No kidding. Learning has occurred today
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Adl with a stock designed as adl - ks, montana, ula/nula. +1!
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I have both and for hunting I slightly prefer the BDL. At the truck, with my left hand covering the ejection port, I extract the round in the chamber with the rifle pointed up. Then I lay the rifle down on the front seat with the bolt still open and pop the floorplate to drop the cartridges that were in the magazine on the seat.
With the ADL rifles I have, I eject the chambered round with my left hand guarding the ejection port to catch it. The rounds in the magazine are then worked with the bolt only enough to pop them free of the feed rails. I’ve seen some guys work those rounds through the chamber but that’s totally unnecessary.
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I prefer hinged floorplate BDL style bottom metal to the blind magazine ADL style. I'm not a huge fan of detachable magazines in bolt actions, but have a few and they work okay. I think that the Ruger Americans would have been better if they had had a blind, staggered, magazines in lieu of the detachable rotary magazines. I've yet to have a hinged floorplate open up on me while hunting, but I can see where it could happen.
I don't find that moving from one style to another is troublesome, but whatever moves you is the way that you should go.
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I have both and for hunting I slightly prefer the BDL. At the truck, with my left hand covering the ejection port, I extract the round in the chamber with the rifle pointed up. Then I lay the rifle down on the front seat with the bolt still open and pop the floorplate to drop the cartridges that were in the magazine on the seat.
With the ADL rifles I have, I eject the chambered round with my left hand guarding the ejection port to catch it. The rounds in the magazine are then worked with the bolt only enough to pop them free of the feed rails. I’ve seen some guys work those rounds through the chamber but that’s totally unnecessary. Amazing how many cannot figure out how to easily unload a blind magazine.
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I have both and for hunting I slightly prefer the BDL. At the truck, with my left hand covering the ejection port, I extract the round in the chamber with the rifle pointed up. Then I lay the rifle down on the front seat with the bolt still open and pop the floorplate to drop the cartridges that were in the magazine on the seat.
With the ADL rifles I have, I eject the chambered round with my left hand guarding the ejection port to catch it. The rounds in the magazine are then worked with the bolt only enough to pop them free of the feed rails. I’ve seen some guys work those rounds through the chamber but that’s totally unnecessary. Amazing how many cannot figure out how to easily unload a blind magazine. +1. I've been doing as described for decades.
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I’ve seen some guys work those rounds through the chamber but that’s totally unnecessary. And then close the bolt and thoughtlessly pull the trigger……which has contributed to a lot of alleged “accidental discharges”. It’s plumb amazing how many folks don’t know how to safely unload a blind box mag. I use the same technique as you describe, takes a few seconds to accomplish. If given a choice I’ll take the ADL. More simple, nicer to carry, and if the stock is designed as an ADL slightly stronger.
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Based on logic, I prefer ADL. Everytime, I am in the field with an ADL-type rifle, I find myself wishing for the BDL, when unloading. A mind is a terrible thing...
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I like BDL ( Oberndorf style) with winchester 3 position safety. Seems it's much easier and safer for kids to learn as well.
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I have hunted with Remington 700 BDL's, as well as many other rifles with floorplates for almost 50 years, and have yet to accidently dump my shells. While I don't really care whether a rifle is an ADL or BDL style, I prefer the BDL's.
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