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Dwayne

At the place in Northern MN I have been out in the nastiest sub zero cold and deep snows, generally running the sno go trails and found fresh bear tracks a number of times. In the deep snow years it looks like someone has pulled a 55 gallon drum by the end thru the snow from belly drag. Can’t miss those trails, particularly the bruisers.

Now these of course are black bears, but it still amazes me that they are up and moving in those conditions. I have followers a few when possible and they seem to be lined out and not circling. Moving to a new den site in 35 below weather? Go figure.

Not as hair raising as your experience above but more mystery of bears.

Take care
Osky

What if.....you were to gut shoot the bear or wolf for that matter and just let it wander off to die? Not suggesting it be done.

Not being able to DLP shoot an animal is just wrong. crooked azz.gov just sticking their nose where it should get shot off really.

There is no such thing left in any country as natural life anymore. I am so sorry for Canada. yet we are in line right behind with stupidity.

Its a shame the guy didn't understand what could happen and maybe find a better way to solve the issue.

On the other hand WTF is wrong with government in these instances.

Osky;
Good morning and thanks for the reply.

For sure and certain I believe I took your comment in the spirit it was offered.

As my girls might say Osky, "we're good".

My rant was mostly me kicking at the wall, living rural, having had 7 different black bears raiding our yard last year and being very narrowly restricted as to what options I had to deal with them.

Back in the day when I'd was in management, I'd tell my lead hands, to remember that 5 Ps - Proper Planning Prevents Poor Performance - usually is fairly true.

I agree with you 1000% that his lack of a clear plan for the vague uncertainties of life showed up in spades.

But again sir, I believe for the most part we're on the same page of the same book on this one.

Thanks nonetheless, I appreciate you taking the time for the clarification.

Conversing without seeing body language and hearing intonation has it's challenges, at least for this boomer.

All the best.

Dwayne

BULLS HIT GALORE!

Gotta have at least a .470 Evans to down a Grizz!!

You can be the Jury Foreman.

So what does ya all believe the appropriate penalty should be for an 80 year old who killed a sow grizzly, hid identifying parts except for the ham which he kept in his freezer?

Does not sound like the evil trophy hunter label that the left has glommed onto.

Not understanding GPS pales in comparison to not understanding DNA.

Bear shows up on my property it’s dead meat.

He's looking at 20 years in prison for killing a bear, meanwhile in Commiefornia a woman stabs her boyfriend 108 times killing him after smoking Mary-Wanna from a bong. She went to trial and the Judge gave her 2 years of community service and probation, it was the bong's fault. JFC.

Pat on the back for doing the country a service since Canada decided no one can kill them anymore and has zero way to deal with the disaster they have created, other than to try to hang someone so to speak for doing the right thing.

Osky;
Me again sir, thanks for the additional info.

That's wild to me that they're still out in -35°.

We hear that it's not uncommon for grizzly bears to get up for a stretch in the winter here, but not as common with BC black bears.

Last fall at the end of our whitetail season, which is the end of November, buddy and I were on the mountain above the house on a crisp morning that the somewhat suspect thermometer on the Dodge said was -24°C.

As I was going through the snow, not quite up to my knees - I'm short so 14" or so - I cut the tracks of a small black bear and followed them until it dropped into a canyon that I wasn't about to head into.

My thought then and I'm not sure why exactly I had it, but my thought was that it hadn't had enough grub or fat buildup before denning. Whether it had denned already or was late denning, I cannot say either.

Again this was a young bear.

We had a massive berry crop failure in the mountains this year, which combined with a couple fairly big wildfires pushed the bears down into the valley here, contributing to the 7 we had in the yard. Not only did they total my pear tree, they killed one adult mulie and one mulie fawn in the gully below the house, judging from the hooves we found and the screaming the neighbors reported.

Mulie fawns especially, do not tend to go gently or quietly into that good night..

The CO's were run ragged this year with problem bears and are necessarily very tight lipped about how many went on the last ride in the big culvert, as that was the only option they had.

One BC bio I was chatting with this month figured there was every chance many of them will die in the dens this winter as there just wasn't enough food to go around.

Thanks again, it's good stuff.

Dwayne

Quit it already with all that new fangled acronym schit.

Evidently he didn't . And unless researched, most his age would have no clue.

rost495;
Good morning sir, I hope you're both having a decent winter wherever you're spending it and you're all well.

As mentioned in my post, BC has 74 grizzly tagged and/or collared in the Flathead which is only 40 odd miles northeast of Troy.

This past season I saw a couple different collared mulies and I ended up shooting a 2 point that had an ear tag.

We're doing a CWD test here, so I was going to turn the head in even before I saw the ear tag, however with the tag, the Bio was able to tell me some of the history of the buck, which was rather cool.

Before my rancher buddy sold off his herd, we talked about some of these little things.

https://okanaganfencesupplies.com/product/livestock-solar-gps-ear-tag-tracker/

It's a brave new world out there isn't it?

All the best.

Dwayne

scumload: YOU are so unbelievably stupid it hurts!
Like others have pointed out on this thread (and numerous others!) you are not only stupid YOU are useless!
Every spring I travel the 375 miles to Hunt Spring Black Bear in the "Yaak"! And many years in the past I have Hunted Whitetailed Deer thereabouts in the fall.
The numbers of Grizzly Bears in that area has increased to the point of now being dangerous!
While you constantly sit in your desk chair with your pud in one hand and your mouse in the other stopping only to post your mindless blather, many true sportsmen are out in the wild Hunting and recreating.
More and more of those folks are killed and maimed by Grizzly Bears every year here in Montana and the Rockies!
Look it up dickwad.
Idiots like yourself are simply to ignorant to realize there are TWO sides to every story!
I am not saying ANY of the actions that were/are illegal by the 80 year old are excusable but if'n a Grizzly Bear comes 40 yards from my house here in Montana IT is dead - whether it is eating my bird seed or not!
PERIOD!
To date the closest Grizzly Bear I have seen to my house has been 16 air miles and the closest Grizzly caused human death has been 45 air miles.
My suggestion to you (and I fully appreciate that YOU are to stupid to accept it) is DO NOT try to make yourself look stupid publicly, by espousing on subjects with which YOU have absolutely NO knowledge.
Sheesh.
In a way I feel sorry for you.
Sad.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Hopefully he still has the skull stashed somewhere.

Expensive memento, but still pretty cool.

But…. but….. but…….. I thought that marijuana users weren’t violent criminals and never hurt anyone. 🤪

I read that story the other day and thought only in Californification can a woman stab her boyfriend 108 times, killing him, and get probation & community service, by blaming her actions on the wacky weed.

California woman who got high and stabbed boyfriend 108 times will not go to prison, judge rules

https://www.foxnews.com/us/californ...iend-108-times-not-go-prison-judge-rules

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Since recreational pot is legal in Montana maybe he should just tell the judge he was high as all fk when this big assed bear came waltzing by.

It's an excuse that's worked for drunk drivers for decades.

Yep. They could probably get a Grand Jury of EX Californians that have moved to Montana to no bill him. 🤪

A collar attached to a west bound semi might do the trick.