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Hey, where'd you get the pics of fish camp??

So the huge grant was paid for by us? Funny I don't see any savings.

It's not stretching it's just plain fuqking lying!

#readingcomprehension



https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/volkswagen-clean-air-act-civil-settlement#:~:text=For%20more%20information.-,Civil%20Penalty,of%20the%20Clean%20Air%20Act.

Yeah...remember when VW was falsifying NOx numbers or something?


Your link didn't work Jeff.

How can you have an aux heater on an electric vehicle that doesn't use batteries?

I believe some Teslas have achieved this wonderous feat.

Yes but injection braking uses power from the battery and dynamic isn't easy to control. But maybe that dynamic tech has advanced enough they are using it on these to get them to a fairly slow speed before the friction brakes take over.

Yeah, but that's a one time use thing.

I think all schools have educated staff to fudge the numbers on everything. Good example I saw, bus rider count day recruitment. Get as many people possible on the buses on the official count day for funding. Normally less than half that regular riders.
Or don't make facility repairs for years to make levy appear more urgent.
Even worse these might be friends, family, or neighbors. Guess it's human nature cause it's still working.

It takes a copy and paste for me but it may be stored in my cache. Idunno.

I don't think many would appreciate the information since it undermines what they want to belive is true.

The short of it is Volkswagen paid billions in EPA fines for violations of the Clean Air Act and that is the money Havre used to buy their cost saving electric buses.

It wasn't tax payers funds.

Some savvy guys there in Havre taking advantage of such funds to better their small rural community.

They probably tether them to line power when they aren't in use and the heaters run off that.

Like plugging in a diesel block heater.

I think we can all agree that anything costs less when someone else pays for it.

Has VW agreed to continue to rack up fines so there will be money available for more buses?

Sad thing is the number twisting will fool a lot of folks that went to public school….

Bidenomics. A near perfect example.

That would make sense when they are in the bus yard. Probably keep them in a semi heated garage as well.

No doubt. That’s fine BTW, make the most of a windfall. Doesn’t make them a good choice when real world costs apply.

No, no no! That 85% of the cost was paid by government, so it's free, ya see.

(that's sarcasm, ya see)

Those are some costly buses. Do the math. Where is there any real savings? I love the way some liberals think. Not!

Meh, they subsidized propane buses for years. Districs couldn’t afford not to go with them.

Their range isn’t nearly as far as diesel. 80- 100 gallon tanks.

If they were having trouble with diesel busses in the cold they weren't maintaining them properly. Do they have barns to store busses in when not in use?
Heaters in the busses are likely diesel fired. Woody didn't want to say that. Too early to say these were a good choice. The 23 cents per mile is way false!
Not too many, if any, electric busses in Alaska!