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JOSH HAMMER: Don’t Mess With Texas

The adjective “Orwellian” can be overused in our political discourse. But how else to describe a situation in which the federal government abdicates its responsibility to secure the nation’s wide-open border and then, when a state steps up to help stanch the bleeding, is told by that same federal government to stop — and, for good measure, that its efforts to help secure the border via a new razor wire barrier will be undone?

There really is only one apt word: “Orwellian.”

On Monday, the Supreme Court voted 5-4 — with moderate Chief Justice John Roberts and center-right Justice Amy Coney Barrett joining their liberal colleagues — in favor of the Biden administration, which had requested that the court permit its Border Patrol agents to cut or remove protective razor wire fencing installed by Texas officials along the besieged Rio Grande. The court’s ruling is simply astonishing. (RELATED: JOSH HAMMER: Let’s Face It, The GOP Is Still Donald Trump’s Party)

In America’s federalist constitutional order, both the federal government and the states act as fully sovereign actors operating within their delineated spheres of legitimate governing authority. The federal government — which was itself initially created in the late 1780s by the then-preexisting states — is in no position whatsoever to demand that states deliberately undermine their own sovereignty. That is especially true when the federal government itself obstinately refuses to secure the nation’s territorial integrity, as has been the case throughout Joe Biden’s disastrous presidency.

That both the federal government and the states may wield power as fully sovereign entities within our constitutional order is constitutional law 101.

As the late Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in the 2012 Supreme Court case Arizona v. United States, “As a sovereign, Arizona has the inherent power to exclude persons from its territory, subject only to those limitations expressed in the Constitution or constitutionally imposed by Congress.” (In Texas’ current case, there is no relevant constitutional limitation or congressional imposition.) Later in his separate Arizona writing, Scalia continued: “(A)fter the adoption of the Constitution there was some doubt about the power of the federal government to control immigration, but no doubt about the power of the states to do so.” (Emphasis added.)

Toward the end, Scalia approached his denouement: “But there has come to pass, and is with us today, the specter that Arizona and the states that support it predicted: A federal government that does not want to enforce the immigration laws as written and leaves the states’ borders unprotected against immigrants whom those laws would exclude. So the issue is a stark one. Are the sovereign states at the mercy of the federal executive’s refusal to enforce the nation’s immigration laws?”

It seems, sadly, that the answer is “yes.” Substitute “Arizona” for “Texas,” and nothing else has changed today.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s reaction was swift and defiant. On Wednesday, Abbott released a statement in which, citing Scalia in Arizona, he lamented how the federal government “has broken the compact” that exists between it and the several states. He formally declared an “inva(sion)” under Article I, Section 10, Clause 3 of the Constitution. Such an express constitutional provision, which reflects the sovereign states’ inalienable right to self-defense, is necessarily supreme to any single order of the Supreme Court. Texas is therefore constructing new razor wire fencing.

Texas is correct to stand its ground. First, the Supreme Court’s order more narrowly permitted Border Patrol agents to remove wire; it said nothing whatsoever about Texas officials’ ability to construct new wire. Second, even if there were a direct clash between Texas and the Court, Texas’s reliance on an express constitutional provision to declare an “inva(sion)” — and thus assert its unequivocal right to secure its borders — takes precedence over a Supreme Court edict. Finally, unless one erroneously accepts the illogical (and frankly un-American) premise of judicial supremacy, under which Supreme Court rulings represent the definitive and all-encompassing “law of the land,” then one should support the state of Texas’ ability to independently interpret the Constitution for itself. (RELATED: TERENCE P. JEFFREY: Think The Border Patrol Is Understaffed? You Have No Idea)

To act as Texas has done is not to invoke the antebellum debate over “nullification” and resuscitate the ghost of John C. Calhoun. Texas’ action here is closer to “interposition,” a legitimate constitutional concept explained by James Madison in The Federalist No. 46: “Were it admitted, however, that the federal government may feel an equal disposition with the state governments to extend its power beyond the due limits, the latter would still have the advantage in the means of defeating such encroachments.”

The mass invasion now transpiring at the U.S. southern border is illegal, immoral and unsustainable. Its scope is truly unprecedented in our history, posing a mortal threat to the nation. God bless Greg Abbott and the great state of Texas, who rightfully cherish their sovereignty and righteously refuse to bend the knee to the most lawless presidential administration in American history.


https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/27/opinion-dont-mess-with-texas-josh-hammer/


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Does the failure of Biden administration to protect the border qualify as treason?

If so, what is the penalty for treason?


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If Trump gets screwed again, or what ever happens to take, steal, put Mooochell in, however it plays out, Texas should secede from union right then, only way to stop the invasion that would continue.

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People don't pour in Canada.


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On the money, and did not skip over very important fundamental facts.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
People don't pour in Canada.

On a per capita basis Canada has more foreigners pouring in than any other country in the world. They aren’t coming from Europe and do not share the same culture or national vision.

They’re “legal” though. Tough to pour into Canada when the only two paths of entry are the North Pole to the North and the entire span of the US as a buffer between Mexico and Central America from the South.

That the Canadian Government still finds away to ship them in speaks volumes about what the plan is IMO.

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This came up with Arizona during the lawless oppressive Obama regime and Arizona stood down. It should’ve been addressed then but wasn’t. Biden is attempting to try the same end round to the constitution. I hope it won’t work this time.

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Originally Posted by AdventureBound
Does the failure of Biden administration to protect the border qualify as treason?

If so, what is the penalty for treason?

Yes, it probably does and I know what the penalty used to be. DemoRats don't want us to read history about it.


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I think if it's simple malfeasance and incompetence, then that's all it is. But that ain't what I think it's all about. I think the intent is to eventually [further] disenfranchise the WASP voter and give this country---OUR country---to someone else. As far as I am concerned, that goes far beyond treason.


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Does the failure of Biden administration to protect the border qualify as treason?

If so, what is the penalty for treason?

Yes, it probably does and I know what the penalty used to be. DemoRats don't want us to read history about it.

Pedo Joe and the Traitorous Muzzy Halfican should both be charged, tried, convicted & hung at GITMO for Treason.
As should many others. But it would be a good start.


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Originally Posted by rainshot
This came up with Arizona during the lawless oppressive Obama regime and Arizona stood down. It should’ve been addressed then but wasn’t. Biden is attempting to try the same end round to the constitution. I hope it won’t work this time.

All the activist groups kept Arizona in lawsuits for years over the border and they had Super wimpy RINO Doug Doucey as Governor for a while after fighting with the Supreme Court over the border. They never should have backed down but don't have the money or pull Texas has...Also didn't have a Republican majority in the Supreme Court like now when those lawsuits happened..It's going to be interesting this time around with Texaa basically trying to pass the same law and fighting for it in the SCOTUS..

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The SCOTUS is irrelevant. The States are banding together and asserting their rightful power as creators of the central government, and showing that central government *this little passage right here* in the Constitution that legitimizes their own authority. While they're at it they should wave it under the justices noses and remind them that their power emanates from the same document that the States ratified. The Supreme Court does not define what's in the Constitution, the Constitution defines the Supreme Court.


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