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Hell no not justified, but it is easily explained.

And I am NOT an apologist like some on here, but Nationbuilding in either form tends to have repercussions, and if we werent in the middle east they'd be killing one another. Book it. Its not them against us, its them against anyone. The US made itself a target by seeking to be the worlds cops. If I were smarter I'd be able to explain how oil was involved. Best intentions, Right or Wrong. Moot. The repercussion are that 2nd century filth are now united agaisnt us as a great satan instead of squabbling with one another.

Here's a question. If you could go back to 1940, would you encourage the US to reconsider aspects of it's foreign policy?

I';m 100% open to getting an educaiton on how I may be wrong.

Fox news tell you that? Man, you are a war mongering rino

Just blow up the entire middle east, right? Then move to Russia because youre overlords told you they are bad, right? Im sorry, youre a dumb ass

I am of the belief that our real problems are rooted in the Spanish/American War and the Federal Reserve of 1913. Without those two things we would not have had a Pacific empire that got us crossways with Japan and we could not have financed our participation in WW1. Without us in the Philippines or WW1 there would not likely have been a WW2.

Yea, Isolationism and appeasement worked so well for us in the 1930's.

Hastings my friend, you need to quit listening to the conspiracy nuts. Fed or no Fed would of made little difference in our ability to finance our participation in WWI. You greatly under estimate the cunning of politicians.

I don't think you are giving Hastings his due. Money is the root of all evil. Who controls the money? Who has used debt laden fiat currency to enslave a free people?
Not saying the Fed. Is totally responsible for where we are, but they are in the top three.
Go poll a thousand on the street; "who owns America?" I bet few to none would say the Fed.
The Fed is the best kept dirty lil' secret in America.

Yes and f ucking up every country in the middle east with endless wars has done wonders as well. Try again

No. Common sense did. You should try it sometime.

You're not naive to believe that the US can garrison unwelcome troops in a foreign land without resistance from the people who live there; no, you're delusional.

LOL. Lindsay Graham gettin' his first boner for a woman. Now that's funny

How many major attacks on US soil after 9/11?

How many would there have been if we'd done nothing?

Tell me about our role in the middle east and the dismantling of the Libyan nuclear weapons program.

Tell me about the origins of the Libyan program and who was funding it.

Tell me what might have happened had we not been meddling in foreign countries and only trading with them. The Moslem world does have an axe to grind with us over our invading them when we felt like it. The 9/11 attack didn't just happen. Not justifying it, but we put our soldiers over there to rescue democracy.

Of course that ship sailed many decades ago.

My extended family can count a good many dead and wounded since WW1. Some of them suffering terribly from PTSD, and mothers grieving over sons, one of which was shot down over territory given to the Russians at the end.

Tell me about half the world population being put under communist tyranny for decades now as a result of our saving the world.

[quote=Hastings
My extended family can count a good many dead and wounded since WW1. Some of them suffering terribly from PTSD, and mothers grieving over sons, one of which was shot down over territory given to the Russians at the end.

Tell me about half the world population being put under communist tyranny for decades now as a result of our saving the world.[/quote]

Like Europe would have been any better off under Nazi regime? All of Europe, half of Africa, and Russia controlled by Nazis. While China, Siberia, Mongolia and South to Australia were Japanese holdings?

America standing alone at the end waiting for Hitler and Hirohito to decide how to divide North America.

That would not have ended well for us.

Get back to me after you're read Lawrence Wright's "The Looming Tower", Al-Qaeda and the road to 9/11. Then you'll understand why much of what you said doesn't really matter.

Here's a hint. Al-Qaeda didn't start as a result of our presence in the Middle East.

yes, she is not doing well in her run for the Whitehouse. No, she is not the answer to our problems. She is misguided on many issues, and cannot pull us out of this democratic tailspin were are in. But she is a women and bleeds every 28 days anyway!

Like Europe would have been any better off under Nazi regime? All of Europe, half of Africa, and Russia controlled by Nazis. While China, Siberia, Mongolia and South to Australia were Japanese holdings?

America standing alone at the end waiting for Hitler and Hirohito to decide how to divide North America.

That would not have ended well for us.[/quote] We don’t know how things would have ended up if we had stayed out but we do know that Russia and Red China ended up with the territory that Japan and Germany wanted. And we are still dealing with that. Plus our nation is now broke and effectively in default. I am positive we could have fended off Japan and Germany.

I wonder if Nimrata Haley has ever gone back to India and shit in the streets just like everybody else over there? You know, just to keep in touch with her cultural roots??

She and Miss Lindsey appear to be reprising and practicing the chorus"bom, bom, bom...bombom Iran"

Without Amarican arms and dollars, Russia would not have held the Russians off through the end of 43.
Germany would have conquered Russia then co-opted her arms and armies into the African Campaigns, and invasion of England.

Without American intervention, Japan would have continued Southward and destroyed Australia. I doubt they would have drafted caucasions into their armies, as they considered them inferior trash.

But after Japan had The Pacific locked up all the way to Hawaii, they could focus on western Asia.

When the Axis Powers had the combined resouces and manpower of the entire world at their disposal, it would have been imposible for America to do that which had been difficult for the combined Allied Armies.

West of the Rockies, we would be speaking Japanese. Those few who survived the bayoneting in the streets.

The rest of the nation would be speaking German.

Sometimes it is wise to meddle in world affairs.

Ukraine was not one of those times.