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Not a penny, the entire NRA governance is rotten to the core, the NRA members that continue to give, or defend their Lifetime membership is telling. Sunk cost fallacy. Get off the sinking ship and promote something that works. GOA and any state groups that actually fight in court.
Wayne and his cronies deserve jail time, I suspect they will get some.
Do I think the NY AG is an honorable jurist, of course not, but Wayne and his cohorts deserve whatever is coming their way, just for the pure hubris.
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We will all be better off if the NRA is forced into bankruptcy and liquidation . It reminds me of a downer cow that you can spend days on watering and doctoring when you would have been better off to have shot her and dragged her off. If it survives it won’t be worth anything. You are one of the most Anti American posters on the Campfire. The NRA-ILA is deeply involved in the most important 2nd Amendment cases in the court system. Anyone who wants to force the NRA into bankruptcy is colluding with the commie leftists who want to disarm Americans. If a guy simply does not wish to give money to the NRA and chooses to support other pro 2A organizations I can see why. But to hope the NRA is "forced into bankruptcy and liquidation" is simply siding with the ENEMY. That's ironic.
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Campfire Ranger
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NRA, GOP, RNC...
Boomsticks don't want to go quietly into that good night no matter what the cost to their cause.
Why start a Haters thread unless you're a hater yourself?
Is the purpose to garner and build support for the NRA and solicit back members who left?
Is it to recruit new members that have eyes on this forum but never post?
No it's to make themselves feel better and reinforce their feelings towards those fellow gunowners they despise.
"Maybe we're all happy."
"Go to the sporting goods store. From the files, obtain form 4473. These will contain descriptions of weapons and lists of private ownership."
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Campfire Ranger
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The NRA has castrated itself and is no longer an asset to gun owners. The only asset we as gun owners have now is the courts and their willingness to uphold the US Constitution as written or to be bought off by the left.
Careful who you support come election time or be ready to exercise your Constitutional 2nd Amendment remedy, if you too aren't castrated.
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"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
Thomas Jefferson
GeoW, The "Unwoke" ...Let's go Brandon!
"A Well Regulated Militia" Life Member
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Shrap,
I am a Benefactor Member and have donated thousands of dollars to the NRA, NRA/ILA, and the NRA Foundation over the years.
I am also one who said I would give no more until they got rid of WLP. But I did NOT say I WOULD give after WLP was gone. Frankly, this $17MM to Wayne turns me off. I would like to see a full accounting of how much NRA has wasted on ridiculous lawsuits. And are any more bums set up to get golden parachutes?
A question: Is it possible that WLP and the "senior management" he praises so much could receive prison time?
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
Democrats would burn this country to the ground, if they could rule over the ashes.
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Shrapnel: If nothing else, you found out there isn’t much appetite for sending money to the NRA anymore.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
Hebrew Roots Judaizer
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NRA needs complete reorganization before I'll donate again.
My demands ... pretty simple
1. Members choose the leaders
2. The charter is to protect all 2nd amendment rights ... 100%
Until that happens GOA and SAF will get my donations.
"Life is tough, even tougher if your stupid"
John Wayne
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Wayne tried to move the NRA to Texas when this lawsuit started. The judge nixed that.
I've been a member since 1970. Life since '76 or so. I haven't returned a ballot in three years. I'm just disgusted with the way the cabal of corruption has been running the outfit. No more of my money.
NRA-Benefactor
TSRA-Life
"It's a terrible thing when governments send their young men to kill each other." Charles Byrne,WW2 Vet.
On the day Desert Storm began.
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The last straw for me with the NRA was their very unpleasant official statement (later purged) on the Texas Open Carry movement several years ago. About that time I was learning of all the other BS gun control that the NRA had been in favor of over the years. I don't give a schidt about LaPierre. He is irrelevant. I don't care who the chief executive is. Piss on the NRA.
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The NRA and TSRA ignored the open carry and constitutional carry until they saw how many supporters there were. Constitutional carry was killed in committee the first time it was filed.
My own state representative wasn't a supporter of it. I contacted him urging his support and his response was to tell me about his NRA rating.
The young lady from GOA was the driving force behind the bill. She worked on it tirelessly. When Hot Wheels signed the bill who was sitting beside him in a very expensive suit? Yep, good ol' Wayne.
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TSRA-Life
"It's a terrible thing when governments send their young men to kill each other." Charles Byrne,WW2 Vet.
On the day Desert Storm began.
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The last straw for me with the NRA was their very unpleasant official statement (later purged) on the Texas Open Carry movement several years ago. About that time I was learning of all the other BS gun control that the NRA had been in favor of over the years. I don't give a schidt about LaPierre. He is irrelevant. I don't care who the chief executive is. Piss on the NRA. Oh, but you must understand that to preserve the Second Amendment, we must compromise it away. (sarcasm)
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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Doesn't matter who the "bad guy" is, every penny sent to the NRA is a penny wasted IMO. If the finite amount of money available is better sent elsewhere, it should be. Forget the pennies. Go ahead and send them to whoever you want to. I'll bet you leticia is smiling ear to leftist fat ear watching everyone bail on the NRA. When she gets done with Wayne guess who is next. (that's not a question) This is the question: You didn't answer the biggest question of all. Who is the real bad guy ?? Wayne or leticia ?? kwg Can any of the open anti 2A groups send you to jail? Nope. Per that standard, any openly anti 2A group is not as bad as Letitia James.Would it make sense to send money to them under the claim of maybe getting them to change their ways? I say no, but apparently many fantasize with a similar delusion. You are right, they are not as bad as Leticia. But, Leticia has the ability to prosecute and persecute you by using the "justice" system. Just ask Donald Trump. So, take another look at your first sentence. kwg
For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
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Shrapnel: If nothing else, you found out there isn’t much appetite for sending money to the NRA anymore. Actually, that is not true. The Campfire has exploded with negativity, but I was at the Antique Arms Show in Vegas when I ran into Phil Shreier and Garry James. Talking to people there at the show about this very subject, it was interesting how few felt the way the Campfire does. Yes there are plenty upset with WLP, but not the majority of people that are still collecting and shooting guns…
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Doesn't matter who the "bad guy" is, every penny sent to the NRA is a penny wasted IMO. If the finite amount of money available is better sent elsewhere, it should be. Forget the pennies. Go ahead and send them to whoever you want to. I'll bet you leticia is smiling ear to leftist fat ear watching everyone bail on the NRA. When she gets done with Wayne guess who is next. (that's not a question) This is the question: You didn't answer the biggest question of all. Who is the real bad guy ?? Wayne or leticia ?? kwg Can any of the open anti 2A groups send you to jail? Nope. Per that standard, any openly anti 2A group is not as bad as Letitia James.Would it make sense to send money to them under the claim of maybe getting them to change their ways? I say no, but apparently many fantasize with a similar delusion. You are right, they are not as bad as Leticia. But, Leticia has the ability to prosecute and persecute you by using the "justice" system. Just ask Donald Trump. So, take another look at your first sentence. kwg So which anti 2A groups are you donating to and hoping to change them?
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Shrapnel: If nothing else, you found out there isn’t much appetite for sending money to the NRA anymore. Actually, that is not true. The Campfire has exploded with negativity, but I was at the Antique Arms Show in Vegas when I ran into Phil Shreier and Garry James. Talking to people there at the show about this very subject, it was interesting how few felt the way the Campfire does. Yes there are plenty upset with WLP, but not the majority of people that are still collecting and shooting guns… you were at an antique gun show. that should explain away any "interesting" feelings. arguably the most useless segment of gun owners in that niche. they don't care about actually fighting for the 2A because they are the same ones who "dont see a need to own an AR-15" you will never understand the displeasure with the NRA because you are part of the problem.
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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Shrapnel: If nothing else, you found out there isn’t much appetite for sending money to the NRA anymore. Actually, that is not true. The Campfire has exploded with negativity, but I was at the Antique Arms Show in Vegas when I ran into Phil Shreier and Garry James. Talking to people there at the show about this very subject, it was interesting how few felt the way the Campfire does. Yes there are plenty upset with WLP, but not the majority of people that are still collecting and shooting guns… ![[Linked Image from scottbieser.com]](https://www.scottbieser.com/images/ak_heston_700.jpg) https://www.scottbieser.com/ak_heston.html
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Shrapnel: If nothing else, you found out there isn’t much appetite for sending money to the NRA anymore. Actually, that is not true. The Campfire has exploded with negativity, but I was at the Antique Arms Show in Vegas when I ran into Phil Shreier and Garry James. Talking to people there at the show about this very subject, it was interesting how few felt the way the Campfire does. Yes there are plenty upset with WLP, but not the majority of people that are still collecting and shooting guns… As far as I'm concerned if your not pizzed at WLP your part of the NRA problems. Gun owners shouldn't give up on the NRA, the organization is definitely pro gun and pro Republican. It just sucks feeling like you've been kicked in the balls because the rich and famous took advantage of members and squandered donations.
Life is good live it while you can.
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Shrapnel: If nothing else, you found out there isn’t much appetite for sending money to the NRA anymore. Actually, that is not true. The Campfire has exploded with negativity, but I was at the Antique Arms Show in Vegas when I ran into Phil Shreier and Garry James. Talking to people there at the show about this very subject, it was interesting how few felt the way the Campfire does. Yes there are plenty upset with WLP, but not the majority of people that are still collecting and shooting guns… So this is the level you will stoop to to make a point! You and all the rest that have jumped ship, failing to recognize that the NRA is still a viable organization. I never said the NRA was perfect, I just haven’t abandoned it and can recognize good people such as I mentioned (Phil and Garry) that are engaged in good work within the NRA. This happens to be Charton Heston’s gun vault, proving Strop is no smarter than the people he wants to denigrate… ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/MGm4DXy2/IMG-3728.jpg)
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Shrapnel: If nothing else, you found out there isn’t much appetite for sending money to the NRA anymore. Actually, that is not true. The Campfire has exploded with negativity, but I was at the Antique Arms Show in Vegas when I ran into Phil Shreier and Garry James. Talking to people there at the show about this very subject, it was interesting how few felt the way the Campfire does. Yes there are plenty upset with WLP, but not the majority of people that are still collecting and shooting guns… So this is the level you will stoop to to make a point! You and all the rest that have jumped ship, failing to recognize that the NRA is still a viable organization. I never said the NRA was perfect, I just haven’t abandoned it and can recognize good people such as I mentioned (Phil and Garry) that are engaged in good work within the NRA. This happens to be Charton Heston’s gun vault, proving Strop is no smarter than the people he wants to denigrate… Truth is treason in your empire of lies. That was the gun room of an attorney who died in 2007. You will literally stoop to saying anything and making [bleep] up to try to get others to subsidize your anti 2A group. https://hoaxes.org/photo_database/image/charlton_hestons_home_gun_collectionhttps://smallarmsreview.com/amazing-100-piece-class-iii-collection-sold-at-auction/Even if that was Heston's stuff, it would just show him as another "rules for thee, but not for me" elite.
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