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Aww poor little girl projecting again. She just can't take it that she can't figure out how to make a scope work. We know you have zero hunting experience. No need to prove it. This and other lies you tell. I'm surprised you can type so well with one hand giving your boyfriend a Handy.
"Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."
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I do a fair bit of mountain hunting and competition shooting, and both are hard on scopes in various ways.
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Aww poor little girl projecting again. She just can't take it that she can't figure out how to make a scope work. We know you have zero hunting experience. No need to prove it. This and other lies you tell. I'm surprised you can type so well with one hand giving your boyfriend a Handy. Again with the homo-erotic fantasies......it's revealing. You seem to be completely obsessed with shooting Comps and gay s hit. We get it. We also understand how clueless you are.
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We don't understand how you can type one-handed so well. Must be all the handy practice. You're a joke.
"Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."
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I do a fair bit of mountain hunting and competition shooting, and both are hard on scopes in various ways. Yup.
"Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."
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We don't understand how you can type one-handed so well. Must be all the handy practice. You're a joke. You literally have not made a post in this thread that was on topic. Your posts in this thread are primarily trying to convince people that competitions are relevant (because you like them). Ok. Now do you or anyone else have evidence Form is paid by optic companies? The answer is no.
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Blindly trusting any anonymous online user doesn’t seem like a good practice. Why not just trust yourself and your experience? Works for me.. My thoughts also. I get entertainment out of the personalities on here and have learned tidbits from most of them. I tend to question the fanboys of any of them. Be your own person. Ultimately, you have to sort through all the information presented. Take into account egos, financial interests, then make your own decision. Continue evaluating based on your experience and move forward. I am fortunate enough to have a friend that builds accurate rifles, shoots a lot and has no personal agenda except putting bullet where intended and offering assistance if asked. If it works, he uses it. If it doesn't he moves on. Have respect for those on here that offer help, without the drama. The world is full of knowledgeable people, the nice thing is... You can decide who to learn from. 
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The form haters instinctively make me root for form
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I do a fair bit of mountain hunting and competition shooting, and both are hard on scopes in various ways. How much does rifle weight come into play? A Montana shooting a .308 at 6.5lbs all done up vs a chunky rifle shooting a .308 at 17lbs (say?)
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Not sure what to think, really, but I do suspect those with the strongest opinions... ![[Linked Image from i.imgflip.com]](https://i.imgflip.com/1u3szb.jpg)
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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Yeah I think I am going to go mount a 6x42 leupold and go hunt this spring.
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"The Illya guy" has been in the optics business for decades, both as an engineer and an executive in charge of various aspects from engineering to manufacturing, working for various companies. He's also a very avid shooter, who knows scopes both inside and outside, in the field. Pardon the pissing match for a second. Who is this "Illya guy" Yeah I had to go back a bit. It’s a guy on snipers hide who said that form had outlandish stories and had an ax to grind with vortex.
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I guarantee I hunt more than you think about hunting...and not from a heated box blind. Probably shoot more too.
Be outraged.
People hate form because he dare push back against the fuddlore wives tales do-nothing-betas live by. Just like you.
I only hunted about two months in total days...so you're right, you probably sat in your climate controlled blind far more than I hunted this yr. J_H, What species in what AO's did you hunt those two months? Would love to see success pics and equipment data...thanks!
You can no more tell someone how to do something you've never done, than you can come back from somewhere you've never been...
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Yep, because his name in Ilya (not "Illya") Koshkin. But he doesn't post much here anymore (only 16 times in 2023, and none so far in 2024), probably because he got tired of the Campfire optics forum BS.
Met him at the SHOT Show around 20 years ago, after we'd corresponded some.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
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I guarantee I hunt more than you think about hunting...and not from a heated box blind. Probably shoot more too.
Be outraged.
People hate form because he dare push back against the fuddlore wives tales do-nothing-betas live by. Just like you.
I only hunted about two months in total days...so you're right, you probably sat in your climate controlled blind far more than I hunted this yr. J_H, What species in what AO's did you hunt those two months? Would love to see success pics and equipment data...thanks! Species? Elk, antelope, huns, and chukar. Equipment data?? Do you have any evidence Form gets paid by nightforce or forums?
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I guarantee I hunt more than you think about hunting...and not from a heated box blind. Probably shoot more too.
Be outraged.
People hate form because he dare push back against the fuddlore wives tales do-nothing-betas live by. Just like you.
I only hunted about two months in total days...so you're right, you probably sat in your climate controlled blind far more than I hunted this yr. J_H, What species in what AO's did you hunt those two months? Would love to see success pics and equipment data...thanks! Species? Elk, antelope, huns, and chukar. Equipment data?? Equipment data like rifles (action/stock/chamberings/bullets), optics(ie this thread!): scopes, binocs, spotters...that stuff. And AO's. That's why a lot of us come here. To learn that stuff...
You can no more tell someone how to do something you've never done, than you can come back from somewhere you've never been...
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I guarantee I hunt more than you think about hunting...and not from a heated box blind. Probably shoot more too.
Be outraged.
People hate form because he dare push back against the fuddlore wives tales do-nothing-betas live by. Just like you.
I only hunted about two months in total days...so you're right, you probably sat in your climate controlled blind far more than I hunted this yr. J_H, What species in what AO's did you hunt those two months? Would love to see success pics and equipment data...thanks! Species? Elk, antelope, huns, and chukar. Equipment data?? Equipment data like rifles (action/stock/chamberings/bullets), optics(ie this thread!): scopes, binocs, spotters...that stuff. And AO's. That's why a lot of us come here. To learn that stuff... That's not the topic of this thread.
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I guarantee I hunt more than you think about hunting...and not from a heated box blind. Probably shoot more too.
Be outraged.
People hate form because he dare push back against the fuddlore wives tales do-nothing-betas live by. Just like you.
I only hunted about two months in total days...so you're right, you probably sat in your climate controlled blind far more than I hunted this yr. J_H, What species in what AO's did you hunt those two months? Would love to see success pics and equipment data...thanks! Species? Elk, antelope, huns, and chukar. Equipment data?? Equipment data like rifles (action/stock/chamberings/bullets), optics(ie this thread!): scopes, binocs, spotters...that stuff. And AO's. That's why a lot of us come here. To learn that stuff... That's not the topic of this thread. Sorry, didn't mean to veer off topic. I have one of the lowest post:years here ratios of active users on the site. What WOULD be the appropriate thread to learn such?
You can no more tell someone how to do something you've never done, than you can come back from somewhere you've never been...
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I do a fair bit of mountain hunting and competition shooting, and both are hard on scopes in various ways. How much does rifle weight come into play? A Montana shooting a .308 at 6.5lbs all done up vs a chunky rifle shooting a .308 at 17lbs (say?) The heavier rifle reduces recoil forces transferred to the scope, but increases forces from being bumped and banged around.
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