I hope whatever they come out with has interchangable barrels like could be done with the H&R. Would set them apart from the CVA/Henry pack.
And I'd like to see the 360 BH in the first round of offerings.
The ability to swap barrels would be a good move for them. It would set them apart as you mentioned and fill the gap left by TC. If you can swap barrels, it could be advertised as a takedown model.
One big pro of the break action single shots is the short oal. In a suppressed break action, less barrel shortening is needed for the same rifle OAL as a bolt/etc. They could promote that.
Any of the states that have cartridge and/or action restrictions or special seasons would be another market, so yeah, any of the state restriction rounds should be a seller.
Whatever they do, I hope they make it slim/trim and stainless. I like light rifles. An option with a carbon butt/forend, a slim/trim receiver, and light contour barrel would be nice. So many of the short break actions are not lighter than bolt actions because of the weight of the stocks or heavy contour barrels. If designed well, it could compete in weight with the lightest rifles on the market, without the need for a shorter barrel, and still be suppressed.
I very much agree. The rationale for suppressors would be a good seller. The popularity of these types of rifles in states with chambering restrictions makes them being an offering a no brainer IMO.
I know that some version of a Farquharson action would be nice, but Ruger already has the No. 1. As well, they need to hit an affordable price point, so that means a break action. Same with the stock. These days, plastic is the new wood. The tactical people like the look and the accountants like the cheap production cost.
If the the idea of single action, straight walled cartridges has Ruger's interest, then the 360 BHMR makes sense, if only for the bullet selection, the headspacing and the fact that people like as much punch as they can get for their dollar. This last thing doesn't always make sense, but it is what it is.
The bean counters have the final word, so I think they will have to offer something like a 223, 308 or similar "popular" cartridge as well, if they want to make some money.
They could take their cues from the Savage 219, IMO about the most graceful budget priced break open ever made. Emphasis on budget, not talking about Merkels or other high dollar kipplaufen.
Of course, given today's market and buyers, it'll have a black plastic stock with M-Lok forend, maybe even a collapsible folding stock.
I just threw up a little writing that...
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
They could take their cues from the Savage 219, IMO about the most graceful budget priced break open ever made.
I agree that that is a very nice-looking single-shot rifle. The only "problem" with it is it doesn't meet the requirements for hunting in certain areas & manufacturers might take that into consideration. For hunting seasons in a variety of locations (i.e. if someone was trying to design a "universal" rifle instead of an elegant one), then it would at a minimum have to have the following features to check off the largest number of regulation requirements:
1. Breech loaded 2. Exposed hammer 3. Chambered in calibers .35 or greater 4. Chambered in a straight-walled cartridge
Item 1, 2 & 3 are what I have to primitive hunt under in LA & MS. Item #2 (which negates your excellent suggestion) is what keeps my beloved Ruger #1 chambered in 9.3x74r stuck in my gun safe collecting dust. It's a regulation that I see no reason for but I have to live with it for part of the hunting season. Similar to your Savage 219 suggestion, in other posts Exchipy has shared photos of his very nice TCR 83 Aristocrat which had the same lines as your Savage suggestion but is still inadequate for my particular area:
They could take their cues from the Savage 219, IMO about the most graceful budget priced break open ever made.
I agree that that is a very nice-looking single-shot rifle. The only "problem" with it is it doesn't meet the requirements for hunting in certain areas & manufacturers might take that into consideration. For hunting seasons in a variety of locations (i.e. if someone was trying to design a "universal" rifle instead of an elegant one), then it would at a minimum have to have the following features to check off the largest number of regulation requirements:
1. Breech loaded 2. Exposed hammer 3. Chambered in calibers .35 or greater 4. Chambered in a straight-walled cartridge
Item 1, 2 & 3 are what I have to primitive hunt under in LA & MS. Item #2 (which negates your excellent suggestion) is what keeps my beloved Ruger #1 chambered in 9.3x74r stuck in my gun safe collecting dust. It's a regulation that I see no reason for but I have to live with it for part of the hunting season. Similar to your Savage 219 suggestion, in other posts Exchipy has shared photos of his very nice TCR 83 Aristocrat which had the same lines as your Savage suggestion but is still inadequate for my particular area:
You summed that up pretty well. Now add in that it has to be affordable so people will actually buy them. Henrys and CVAs may fall short in some ways, but they are affordable, and people are buying them. I’m not sure there’s much room for another similar rifle.
If they can come in with some sort of decent break action closer to CVA's prices than Henry's they might do ok with it, because there is a bit of a gap between the brand price points.
Iron sights would be a plus; the lack thereof is my main rub with the Scouts.
Maybe they’re thinking of bringing back the Number 3 but under the Marlin banner.
No. As I've been trying to say they're bringing back the H&R handi rifle with their spin on it. That was initially the brand they wanted even before Marlin but they didn't like the price