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Wishing them the best. It's crazy to think that heavy snow would be a factor just 40 miles away from a place as temperate as San Diego.
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I saw where they found the wreck a couple hours ago, but weather, snow and rough terrain they are having problems getting to it.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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The CH-53 E is a death trap. No way I would ever fly in one those in perfect weather. They were always broke down!
My first year in the Marines Tustin Helo base, I remember one going down in the ocean. They brought back parts to my hangar. As a young Marine I thought damn, I'm glad I don't work on those.
My CH-46's helos never crashed, now it's been replaced with the V-22 osprey which has also been prone to several crashes killing marines.
In my four years working around many helos, I've seen many CH53E grounded .
Prayers for those in the crash.
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It's crazy to think that heavy snow would be a factor just 40 miles away from a place as temperate as San Diego. Flatlander logic.
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Wishing them the best. It's crazy to think that heavy snow would be a factor just 40 miles away from a place as temperate as San Diego. The area has been getting hammered by the Pineapple Express this year Paul. Parts of the SD area had 3"+ rain in a few hours last week, and more this week. I think I saw somewhere today that Gavin is asking the WH to declare an emergency for the county. I just checked NWS and SD Airport has had 7" rain since Jan 1. Substantial for there where they average less than 10" a year as I recall. And it's still raining there as a relative tells me. Most folks don't realize there is a mountain range there on the East side of the county that has peaks nearly as tall as the highest peaks East of the Mississippi. Not sure exactly where those Marines went down, but in winter 3" of rain on those mountains probably equal to about 18" snow, just for that storm more is likely falling as I type. And having run around in the area for years as a kid I can tell you if they went down in the really thick chaparral, it's going to be a difficult recovery. A person cannot walk through some places, we had to climb on top, then the next guy climbed over the first, and so on for at least a hundred yards to get back to an area thin enough to walk through. Don't ask how we got into that situation in the first place............teenage boys are good for that kind of thinking. When I saw the story this morning I was hoping they went down in an area easy to get to. The odds of that occurring there are not that good, especially after I heard the names of some of the locations they were looking.
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In it is contentment
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The CH-53 E is a death trap. No way I would ever fly in one those in perfect weather. They were always broke down!
My first year in the Marines Tustin Helo base, I remember one going down in the ocean. They brought back parts to my hangar. As a young Marine I thought damn, I'm glad I don't work on those.
My CH-46's helos never crashed, now it's been replaced with the V-22 osprey which has also been prone to several crashes killing marines.
In my four years working around many helos, I've seen many CH53E grounded .
Prayers for those in the crash. You couldn't get me on a 53 Echo even at gunpoint! I retired 18 months ago and don't miss flying one bit.
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Sounds like they went down in the Kitchen Creek/Mount Laguna area. The area really drops off steep to the east.
Back in the 1980s I used to go shooting/camping out there along Kitchen Creek Road.
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Hopefully there will be survivors, but it doesn't sound very good.
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I wonder if they were in Las Vegas in support of Biden's recent visit there.
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I wonder if they were in Las Vegas in support of Biden's recent visit there. Is Creech AFB in the Las Vegas area? News article I read this afternoon said that's where they left from headed to Miramar. And yes, that mountain drops off some on the East side, and there are some pretty steep sections in the Kitchen Creek area. If not mistaken it used to be a pretty good spot around there for hang gliders to launch from. Kitchen Creeks used to be fairly popular shooting spot. Had some good times out there too.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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I read that Creech AFB is near Vegas. Never been there myself.
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Guess that could have been their assignment then.
Sucks, whatever the deal was. I heard the weather was pretty scheidty that night. Not fun flying over those mountains then.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Latest report, found, no survivors. Tragic.
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Every flyer has a final flight. The lucky ones know about it when they strap in.
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2" rain that way causes disaster.....here just a welcome shower! Please God...help these Marines!
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