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Give me a smokeless muzzleloader if I am restricted to straight walled cartridges or slugs.

Actually he did address that. They working on a spiral fluted magazine similar to Remington 14/141. As odd as that is he said they are also working on a model 1894 Marlin in 9mm Luger. His reasoning was because none of the legislation currently out there goes after tubular magazines and they could have a 20 shot repeater

That's interesting. Would be more interesting in .45ACP, but they'll probably do that eventually if they actually get the 9mm to work.

The 35 REM is an awesome woods cartridge and being that the 360 is sim in velocity I imagine it would be grand as well. Cast with the 35 rem run great. There is a lot of taper in that 360 BH, can it be necked up to 9.3 and still have a bit of taper?
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That trapper in 44 mag would be BAF

SAAMI has specs.Look and see:

https://saami.org/technical-information/cartridge-chamber-drawings/

No interest in a 30-30. .360 BH is what I need.

Marlin Rep said they need to see 25,000 rounds on the market before they'll move on that round. He said Remington is pumping that ammo out at a slow trickle right now

I just wish I had access to the 6,000 Remlins they have in permanent storage. They acquired them in the acquisition and will not sell them because they are Remlins

I am seriously thinking of doing exactly this. I have (2) really nice smokeless MZ rifles: Nula and a TC Encore with custom barrel. I've only shot NULA a couple times and never shot the TC.

That has to be the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a long time. Is it going to be bored .355 too?

Ok I was wrong. This is even dumber. Who the hell are they hiring to make these decisions?

They claim it as being "innovation". They want to go in new directions with the brand. Maybe they'll find these ideas to be impractical? I was wrong when I said "he said they need to see 25,000 rounds on the market before they'll chamber a cartridge". My Son corrected me. He said what the man actually said was "they need a commitment from an ammo manufacturer for 25,000 rounds before they'll chamber a cartridge". That's why they're not interested in the 360 Buckhammer, there's no commitment to producing 25,000 rounds

Wouldn't it have to be .355?

Innovation like the tacti-cool skeleton stock and AR style hand guards and threaded muzzles? Call me old but someone needs castrated for that abortion. I’m sorry but just look at the prices the old JM guns bring and tell me why they need to reinvent the brand? Yes Remington screwed the pooch while they owned it but it looks to me like Ruger’s going to do the same thing if there’s any truth to the BS that rep was giving you. Rant off.

Liking and owning ‘classic’ levers doesn’t keep me from appreciating a niche for modernized versions, tailored to suppressors and all conditions. Just because bolt guns come in all flavors, doesn’t hurt feelings….and they’re far older and more ‘classi’ than lever action repeaters.

I thought I knew the history of firearm development pretty well but maybe not. So tell me, what bolt action repeater pre dated the Volcanic lever ? I mean I know there were pin fire rifles before then but I thought they were all single shots mostly of the break open type.

Look for those to trickle out at a time convenient to Ruger.



Don't bother, they won't be marked as Remlins.
Won't be hard to get them up to Ruger standards.

Well, IIRC the Prussian Army was carrying bolt actions before 1850, and there were designs made decades before that. You can dig into that more if you want….The lever was an American darling, while the bolt action was a European thing initially.

I didn’t intend for folks to get lost in the sauce, merely to point out the POV discrepancies/angst when new choices happen. Some folks get upset at being offered more choices firearms. I’m not sure why, but it is.

Had to be pinfire. Were they repeaters ? I like both lever and bolt action rifles and have about an equal number of each in my safes.