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I shot a bull moose in Newfoundland with a 338RUM and a 250gr Accubond bullet. The moose was hit on the point of the shoulder and it flipped him over backwards, DRT. The bullet penetrated both shoulders and was captured in the off-side hide. The expanded bullet weighed 140gr after tearing through all of that bone.
My opinion - use a 200gr Accubond/Partition or similar bonded bullet just in case you encounter a lot of bone. He may have gone over backwards, but the impact alone didn't do that.
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I don't want to have to have my animal broadside when I'm hunting. I want the ability to take raking shots. Why the preference for raking shots over a good broadside lung shot? No. I said I don't want to "have to" have an animal broadside. Another words I don't wish to be limited. I want to have the option to take the angling shot Gotcha
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Barnes TTSX is great too ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/1MKtvfF.png)
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I shot a bull moose in Newfoundland with a 338RUM and a 250gr Accubond bullet. The moose was hit on the point of the shoulder and it flipped him over backwards, DRT. The bullet penetrated both shoulders and was captured in the off-side hide. The expanded bullet weighed 140gr after tearing through all of that bone.
My opinion - use a 200gr Accubond/Partition or similar bonded bullet just in case you encounter a lot of bone. He may have gone over backwards, but the impact alone didn't do that. Clearly, you do not understand knock down power! 😳
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I shot a bull moose in Newfoundland with a 338RUM and a 250gr Accubond bullet. The moose was hit on the point of the shoulder and it flipped him over backwards, DRT. The bullet penetrated both shoulders and was captured in the off-side hide. The expanded bullet weighed 140gr after tearing through all of that bone.
My opinion - use a 200gr Accubond/Partition or similar bonded bullet just in case you encounter a lot of bone. He may have gone over backwards, but the impact alone didn't do that. Clearly, you do not understand knock down power! 😳 On my first hunt with my .300 Wby, Jason Matzinger's Dad, Tim, videod me shooting a Scimitar Horned Oryx in Texas that flipped over backward. Jason never used that footage on his TV show "Into High Country".
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On my first hunt with my .300 Wby, Jason Matzinger's Dad, Tim, videod me shooting a Scimitar Horned Oryx in Texas that flipped over backward. Jason never used that footage on his TV show "Into High Country". Have had a handful of moose flip over backwards, but that’s because their ass falls while their front legs are stiff and the momentum pulls them over. Unless you shot that Oryx with a bowling ball, you didn’t flip him over from bullet “energy”.
Why pack all that messy meat out of the bush when we can just go to the grocery store where meat is made? Hell,if they sold antlers I would save so much money I could afford to go Dolphin fishing. Maybe even a baby seal safari.
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Barnes TTSX is great too Bee you say, well that is just PERFECT! From this day forward I am calling my .300 Win Mag Weatherby "Bee" or "Next of Kin" 
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On my first hunt with my .300 Wby, Jason Matzinger's Dad, Tim, videod me shooting a Scimitar Horned Oryx in Texas that flipped over backward. Jason never used that footage on his TV show "Into High Country". Have had a handful of moose flip over backwards, but that’s because their ass falls while their front legs are stiff and the momentum pulls them over. Unless you shot that Oryx with a bowling ball, you didn’t flip him over from bullet “ energy”. The principle here is conservation of momentum. If the projectile carried enough momentum to flip a moose, then the recoil of the rifle would be tremendous.
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The principle here is conservation of momentum. If the projectile carried enough momentum to flip a moose, then the recoil of the rifle would be tremendous. Well, yeah. It would flip the shooter over possibly several times....
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Well, I never had a mule deer or elk flip over backwards from a close range hit with my .300 Weatherby but a few fell down in their tracks or staggered a few steps and tipped over. YMMV
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The one thing about it, they all ended up dead.
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I had a whitetail flip over backwards, but I was using a 270.
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On my first hunt with my .300 Wby, Jason Matzinger's Dad, Tim, videod me shooting a Scimitar Horned Oryx in Texas that flipped over backward. Jason never used that footage on his TV show "Into High Country". Have had a handful of moose flip over backwards, but that’s because their ass falls while their front legs are stiff and the momentum pulls them over. Unless you shot that Oryx with a bowling ball, you didn’t flip him over from bullet “energy”. I didn't say or even try to imply that the Oryx flipped over backwards from my bullet's energy, but that he flipped backwards as a reaction to being hit. Now a few prairie dogs that I've shot blew apart or flipped high in the air as direct result of my bullet's energy!
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buffy, these guys just want to argue, they are not worth your time.
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Barnes TTSX is great too Bee you say, well that is just PERFECT! From this day forward I am calling my .300 Win Mag Weatherby "Bee" or "Next of Kin" More like anomaly. Ha ha.. I always thought the Weatherby rifles chambered for 300wm were weird. Why not just chamber them properly?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The principle here is conservation of momentum. If the projectile carried enough momentum to flip a moose, then the recoil of the rifle would be tremendous. Well, yeah. It would flip the shooter over possibly several times.... We've all seen the videos..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Barnes TTSX is great too Bee you say, well that is just PERFECT! From this day forward I am calling my .300 Win Mag Weatherby "Bee" or "Next of Kin" More like anomaly. Ha ha.. I always thought the Weatherby rifles chambered for 300wm were weird. Why not just chamber them properly? It is weird, the first time I shot it I said to myself, "Man that is weird, nowhere near the target, what a piece of junk!" Had to swap out the barrel, glass bed and fee float it before I turned it into a Killing machine. To be honest I bought it for the fit, something about Monte Carlo stocks that fit me perfectly. My Bee stays home most of the time, the BSA is my Bestest Friend ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Z8IZTLhh.jpg)
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To be honest I bought it for the fit, something about Monte Carlo stocks that fit me perfectly. You just made the most sensible quote on the fire with this statement. There was a time when I likely wrote more artlcles on Weatherby's than the other writers combined and the reason for that was rifle fit. Owning 2 John Rigby rifles taught me something mere words fail.
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I didn't read all this thread, but a .300 will be excellent. I have killed two moose with my .300 Win. One with Sierra 165 HPBT and one with a 200 grain Nosler Part. If I get another hunt in, it will be with 165 Accubonds. What ever shoots best and you like use it. My late wife killed two. One with a 180 Sierra out of an 06 and one with a 7mm RM and a 140 gr. BTBT. All these internet commandos only read and pass it on.
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Barnes TTSX is great too yes they are ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2590/2Vwhrs.jpg)
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