|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,237 Likes: 2
Campfire Tracker
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,237 Likes: 2 |
I am putting them on my table at an upcoming gun show in March, shipping so expensive anymore. Some of them that are in not so good shape, will cut out some adds for framing , etc . Thanks!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 12,732
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 12,732 |
What qualifies as Media Mail with USPS?
Media Mail rates are limited to the items listed below: Books (at least 8 pages). Sound recordings and video recordings, such as CDs and DVDs. Play scripts and manuscripts for books, periodicals, and music.
I always thought a magazine was a 'periodical'...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,495
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,495 |
Maybe a gray area. Sounds like advertising is the hang up. Crazy rule that forces first class ship.
From USPS "Media Mail packages may not contain advertising. Comic books do not meet this standard. Books may contain incidental announcements of other books and sound recordings may contain incidental announcements of other sound recordings."
"Every day above ground is a good day."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 6,523 Likes: 1
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 6,523 Likes: 1 |
picky aren't they? But then that's what to expect from the government.
wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 43,781 Likes: 3
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 43,781 Likes: 3 |
I didn't realize that "cannot contain advertising" would mean advertising in the magazine. I always thought it meant advertising added by the seller.
That's just... stupid.
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 12,732
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 12,732 |
I didn't realize that "cannot contain advertising" would mean advertising in the magazine. I always thought it meant advertising added by the seller.
That's just... stupid. I'm sure it means just advertising material without associated content. Again, a magazine is a periodical and that is allowed.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 632
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 632 |
I've held my tongue long enough--challenge: I have
Every American Rifleman since 1928 Every Gun Digest Every Gun Report Every Double Gun Journal About four hundred books on firearms and hunting
Is there a bigger packrat in our group?
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 278
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 278 |
Ive gifted some to friends, month and year they were born.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,178
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,178 |
Media mail rate for 1 magazine would be $4.13. Ebay gouges for about a 16% fee on every penny collected but that's over the top. Lots of sellers try to get their fees back by jacking the shipping. Mail rates go up every January. Not 3 times a year. I thought about selling mine on Ebay with media mail, until I checked the regs for media mail. Being a very rule oriented person I couldn't do it. Unless the Post Office changed the rules recently, it was against the law, or "PO" Rules to ship anything with adds for items for sale, including 100 year old magazines. The only exception was a publisher could have ads for books by the same author. Ask Randy, he might know the rules. most people just say fork the rules, nobody checks. I just did a search. https://about.usps.com/notices/not121/not121_tech.htm
I'm not greedy, I just want one of each.
Remember Ira Hayes
JoeMartin
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,178
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,178 |
Well, I should of read everything first. Others have brought it up? I've held my tongue long enough--challenge: I have
Every American Rifleman since 1928 Every Gun Digest Every Gun Report Every Double Gun Journal About four hundred books on firearms and hunting
Is there a bigger packrat in our group? Dave, you don't collect chainsaws too do you? We have a guy on the Arborist site that goes by "Bigolddave". If that were you, with his saw collection, I'd say you are the biggest Pack Rat. I only have about 70 chainsaws.
I'm not greedy, I just want one of each.
Remember Ira Hayes
JoeMartin
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 632
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 632 |
Joe, I am ashamed to say I have only one chainsaw, and it is a little electric one. My wife, however, has about three thousand cook books, down from about forty-five hundred.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 9,343 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 9,343 Likes: 1 |
Media mail rate for 1 magazine would be $4.13. Ebay gouges for about a 16% fee on every penny collected but that's over the top. Lots of sellers try to get their fees back by jacking the shipping. Mail rates go up every January. Not 3 times a year. I thought about selling mine on Ebay with media mail, until I checked the regs for media mail. Being a very rule oriented person I couldn't do it. Unless the Post Office changed the rules recently, it was against the law, or "PO" Rules to ship anything with adds for items for sale, including 100 year old magazines. The only exception was a publisher could have ads for books by the same author. Ask Randy, he might know the rules. most people just say fork the rules, nobody checks. I just did a search. https://about.usps.com/notices/not121/not121_tech.htmFork the rules. If it fits it ships. They don't have enough people to get the mail delivered and they certainly don't have enough to tear apart media mail to make sure it doesn't have advertising in it. Nobody at the post office cares what's in your package.
"You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" ~Admiral Yamamoto~
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. ~Thomas Jefferson~
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,178
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,178 |
I'm not greedy, I just want one of each.
Remember Ira Hayes
JoeMartin
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,178
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,178 |
Media mail rate for 1 magazine would be $4.13. Ebay gouges for about a 16% fee on every penny collected but that's over the top. Lots of sellers try to get their fees back by jacking the shipping. Mail rates go up every January. Not 3 times a year. I thought about selling mine on Ebay with media mail, until I checked the regs for media mail. Being a very rule oriented person I couldn't do it. Unless the Post Office changed the rules recently, it was against the law, or "PO" Rules to ship anything with adds for items for sale, including 100 year old magazines. The only exception was a publisher could have ads for books by the same author. Ask Randy, he might know the rules. most people just say fork the rules, nobody checks. I just did a search. https://about.usps.com/notices/not121/not121_tech.htmFork the rules. If it fits it ships. They don't have enough people to get the mail delivered and they certainly don't have enough to tear apart media mail to make sure it doesn't have advertising in it. Nobody at the post office cares what's in your package. I know what you mean, and it’s a pretty stupid rule especially on old stuff. Even BATF draws a line at 50 years. It’s hard to compete with all the vendors that use it. But, when I was a kid, my Dad asked me, “If you steal a piece of candy and don’t get caught, does that mean you didn’t steal it?”
I'm not greedy, I just want one of each.
Remember Ira Hayes
JoeMartin
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 23,132 Likes: 2
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 23,132 Likes: 2 |
FWIW I've media mailed and received bundles of Rifleman's and other rags over the years without getting busted by the Postal Inspectors and with zero remorse to boot. Some rules were made to be broken.
"You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 9,343 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 9,343 Likes: 1 |
But, when I was a kid, my Dad asked me, “If you steal a piece of candy and don’t get caught, does that mean you didn’t steal it?” I'd hardly put stealing in the same category as breaking a post office mailing rule. That's a stretch...
"You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" ~Admiral Yamamoto~
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. ~Thomas Jefferson~
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,178
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,178 |
Don’t worry, if Uncle Joe knew how much firewood I sell, he’d clear out a cell just for me.
I'm not greedy, I just want one of each.
Remember Ira Hayes
JoeMartin
|
|
|
|
63 members (338Rules, AdventureBound, 406_SBC, 907brass, 300_savage, 9 invisible),
1,311
guests, and
705
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,449
Posts18,507,941
Members74,002
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|