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The "success", beauty, and lure of the American Dream are partially responsible, especially when coupled with the "reality" that upward trajectories wrt standards of living, etc. cannot be sustained forever, let alone maintained over multiple generations. Many in those successive generations take too much for granted and can't comprehend the work/sacrifice/discipline of those earlier Americans who got us to where we are. Bad luck affects others!

Idle time, excess $$$, failure to cope with unrealistic expectations, and an "enabling" environment for experimentation and "escape" cause many to fall into the mind altering grasp of these lifestyles/drugs. The brain chemistry/behavior is complex and very powerful. Recidivism is not absolute, but more often than not the norm... once an addict, always an addict (at some level) in term of ongoing vulnerability to relapse. "Tolerance" and even more so, "dependence" are ominous warning signs if care is not sought or access to the drug at least restricted (narcotics for sure.) Abuse of multiple substances, increased potency of modern abused and available drugs, illicit production, foreign involvement/illicit sourcing, and finally social decay ALL lead to the current deadly, dysfunctional environment that far too many Americans are aware of, if not personally afflicted.

Why do we believe that we can play with fire and not get burned? Most learn that lesson early and move forward "enlightened." There are some that never will! This explains many of the chronically addicted. Sadly, recurrent "burns" mean death for these people... eventually. The only alternatives are lifelong progressive treatment OR supervised use OR emergency resuscitation for overdoses.

Here we are!!!

A tolerant, compassionate, perhaps reckless "view" deals with it, pays for it, and probably increases the prevalence in our current "social state" as a nation and interpretation of what freedom really means.

A harsh, realistic "view" looking for change lets people suffer the consequences of their actions(death or withdrawal), restricts the access(market), punishes severely the suppliers/illicit sources up to and including the same death afforded the addicts.

One view supports and even perpetuates the problem. The other addresses it with the goal of decreasing the prevalence, maybe eradicating it.
Both can result in death for different parties involved!

Many of these narcotics (morphine, fentanyl, sufentanil, oxycontin, etc.) and other pharmaceuticals (cocaine, ketamine, propofol) are wonderful drugs and the world is better off for them overall. NONE were ever intended to be abused or intended for long term use! Addiction has been an issue for years after wars, injuries, and in "tolerant"/permissive/ignorant nations/populations(think 1960's most recently and they are our crop of current senior leaders!!!) Bad/ignorant physicians can be the cause as well.

I'd rather prevent the problem(current(essentially powerless)users and future users), remove/destroy the illicit souces and eliminate altogether(death if required) the "willful and powerful" creating the other "half" of the problem ie. cartels, illicit lab chemists, and street sellers.

"Just say NO" sounded good but won't work. It should have been "Kill or be killed" which is really what it is. "Bandaids" just kick the can down the road which is what .gov seems to be good at... hence the continued and growing problem. Alcohol and its issues are similar and different at the same time. Prohibition failed miserably and yet ETOH still predictably "kills" many...

Chinese getting back at the collective west for the opium wars.

You reap what you sow . . .

The US uses basically all of the world's drugs.

Illegal and legal.


It ain't just availability.

I guess they don’t have the D.A.R.E. Program

You missed some, send someone to pick them up.

Not true. Once released one can stay released. Other stuff in the novela is marginal.

blah blah blah. Let em die by the boatload. Who cares.

Oh they will it’s up to the individual. You don’t have to be a junkie. Saying it’s inevitable and a one way street and all that is excuse making. It’s a personal decision.

And now I'm sure they'll vote for him again.


On the good news side, theres a 1500% rise in fentanyl deaths in Oregon!

Like they didn't know what would happen to them if they took that crap.

Hard choice to make even if a family member is hooked.

But it needs to be made.

This could happen to anyone at anytime.

Yeah,

the Brazilians, African nations, and a few others prefer inhalants .

They did.. believe it!

And will again

Overdosing is the only contribution a drug addict will ever make to society.....

Liberalism is what keeps ALL of this running... in this state or anywhere else.

Not really! You have to take the schitt, before you can become addicted to it. It is a personal choice.


Each and every time another dose is taken, it is a choice!

An illness? Bull schitt? It's a choice.

If we can't eliminate fentanyl from our city streets, let's do the next best thing - ban narcan.
Seriously.

Nope, that is Bozeman.

The Tyranny will continue till Morale Improves ..

Remember it’s Darwin at Work