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I didn't say small, just less huge.
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I didn't say small, just less huge. True, you did
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Be sure to mount the scope using at least 20 minute look down bases. 30 might be better at 1000.
When the tailgate drops the BS stops.
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I was just looking over the specs on that Arken. Looks pretty nice too. A lot of great features, travel, etc. A little on the heavy side at 35 ounces, but that's not really a deal-breaker on a long-range play toy. I've compared my 4-16 to another range member's 6-24 and I definitely preferred my 4-16x50. The adjustments work great. The "glass" is OK, but I don't expect "alpha" glass at the price point. At least on my sample the distance scale on the parallax adjustment is a fairy tale. I've always been happy with non-alpha glass. At long distances, mirage doesn't care how clear the glass is.
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I was just looking over the specs on that Arken. Looks pretty nice too. A lot of great features, travel, etc. A little on the heavy side at 35 ounces, but that's not really a deal-breaker on a long-range play toy. If you wanna try out the 4-16 MM, shoot me a message, I'll gladly send it out for you to try. I think I'll go with the small variant next time. Good scopes and all but they are huge.. Thanks for the nice offer, but I'm good.....(grin). I could see putting one on a heavy long range bomber.
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I was just looking over the specs on that Arken. Looks pretty nice too. A lot of great features, travel, etc. A little on the heavy side at 35 ounces, but that's not really a deal-breaker on a long-range play toy. If you wanna try out the 4-16 MM, shoot me a message, I'll gladly send it out for you to try. I think I'll go with the small variant next time. Good scopes and all but they are huge.. Thanks for the nice offer, but I'm good.....(grin). I could see putting one on a heavy long range bomber. No sweat, It's coming off that and I have no clue what I'll put it on next..
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https://www.amazon.com/Arken-Optics-6-24X50-Illuminated-Reticlewatch the tracking vid. Have one on my 6.5 creed, hard to beat for the money
If your going through hell, keep on going, don't look back, If your scared don't show it. You might get out b'fore the devil even knows your there. (Rodney Atkins)
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I use a load similar to Montana Marines, 212 ELDs and use a 3-9 SS on it. Haven’t shot it past 800 yet but it’s a decent set up. Not sure what’s out there for factory 30-06 LR target ammo. How fast are those 212’s going? Barrel length and what powder? Thanks
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It’s a 22” barrel on the rifle and I used SB6.5 in Lapua brass.
I’ll have to recheck my notes when I’m home but around 2675-2700 if I remember right. I used the data from Hodgdon for the 208 AMax to start.
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Thanks, thinking of doing something similar with a 24” barreled Ackley when I get it put together.
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That combo really made me take notice of the old 06.
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My range is 300 to 700, I have tried many scopes on the '06, keep going back to good ol SWFA 12x mil quad...as a result, I gave up dialing...just use the reticle, fast easy. I gave up fancy match bullets too, just shooting surplus cup and core hunting bullets (copper only here now) and the last few hundred 173gr military ball pulled bullets. Fun, easy, cheap. It's surprising how little elevation deviation there is in real world shooting between different bullet styles. But my targets are big, 3 moa or so....and I'm not shooting past 700.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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I have both of the scopes mentioned in the OP, and I'd use either one, with a preference to the 10x if just shooting steel. The Arken ain't all that great past 12x or, at least in my opinion.
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Not sure on factory loads. But I'm shooting hand loads 180 game kings at 2850 + out of the old 06. I'm limited by my 10x scope to about 600 with the thick cross hair. But my other scope at 12x I'm good to 800 on a 12" gong . It's a hunting rig, not a long range bench rifle
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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Not sure on factory loads. But I'm shooting hand loads 180 game kings at 2850 + out of the old 06. I'm limited by my 10x scope to about 600 with the thick cross hair. But my other scope at 12x I'm good to 800 on a 12" gong . It's a hunting rig, not a long range bench rifle How is that combo on game at 600 yds?
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Not sure on factory loads. But I'm shooting hand loads 180 game kings at 2850 + out of the old 06. I'm limited by my 10x scope to about 600 with the thick cross hair. But my other scope at 12x I'm good to 800 on a 12" gong . It's a hunting rig, not a long range bench rifle How is that combo on game at 600 yds? Good on elk and deer for me, when I used them-My MV was around 2750 fps
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Thanks for the info. What do you figure your maximum distance was for game at that velocity?
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Thanks for the info. What do you figure your maximum distance was for game at that velocity? I can't remember for sure if my MV was 2750ish or closer to 2775 ish. At 8500 feet elevation, where I was hunting elk back then, it would take me out to about 775 yards, with a minimum impact velocity of 1800 fps. MV at 2750 15.75" 7.82 Patriot center-grip XP-100.
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Very cool XP and great picture.
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Very cool XP and great picture. Thanks. That was a number of years ago, when we were hunting in SW Colorado, near Bayfield.
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