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Does anyone make either of these but in a compact format? I know there are plenty of 3x9 out there, but the full size ones look funky to me on a lever gun. I would like click adjustments that are true and correct.
I know for instance that Vortex makes a Crossfire II 2x7 but honestly I do not trust it to make true adjustments. Sig makes a Whiskey 3, 2x7x32mm BDC but know nothing about them.

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I've had good luck with the Redfield Revolutions. Own two in 2-7 and am keeping them. One is going on a 20" 760. Other is in waiting.

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Do they still make them?


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Originally Posted by Fotis
I know there are plenty of 3x9 out there, but the full size ones look funky to me on a lever gun.

Any ideas?

I agree. Nothing says WTF like a 3-9 or similar on a lever gun, a type of rifle that should epitomize balance, easy carry and fast handling.

My lever guns with optics all carry 1 - 4s the others irons. For what it’s worth, my Number 1s only have
1 1/2 - 5s because I don’t want to encumber nice handling rifles with completely unnecessary optics.

Seems like the optics companies primarily want to sell Hubbles these days. If I were you, I’d be looking for an older Leupold 1-4, 1.5-5. 1.75-6 or 2-7. Going to assume, being a lever gun and all, it’s going to be set and forget?

Might be worth looking at some of the LPVOs currently on the market that are primarily intended for ARs

Just my thoughts.


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The trouble with LPVO's for lever guns is they're all 30mm tubes and heavy as a brick with giant ocular bells precluding them from being mounted as low as they should be on a lever gun stocked for iron sight use.

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The vintage Redfields in 4X on a lever.....9.2 ozs and 11 30"....hard to beat. Also have one on a Win. 69A rimfire.

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Do they still make them?

Unfortunately not, but they can be had on the used market and not for big dollars.

The only thing you have to watch with them is that there is a funky LR reticle that's a bit weird. The duplex is fine.

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I don't like the looks of a belled objective on a lever gun. Straight tubes look great to my eye. I love this pig plex reticle on my Leupold 1-4.

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Too many of the LVPOs take on too tacticool of a look for lever guns. This one is an exception. https://www.bushnell.com/scopes/vie...ion-1-6x24-riflescope/BU-RT1624BS15.html

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The Sightron 1.75-5 looks very nice.

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Pertinent to this topic, I called Trijicon the other day to request they start making a 1" tube 2-7 and 1-4 Accupoint. The ground is already prepped given they make a 1" tube 3x9 Accupoint. The guy who answered the phone said they have some sort of "Tell us what you want" option and routed me to another guy who was very interested in what I had to say about the market demand for hunting scopes. He said they take customer requests and comments seriously and have regular discussions at meetings about what they hear. Maybe the guy was just shining me on, but he was interested enough to have me repeat several things to him.

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Unfortunately most of todays 2-7x32's have huge ocular bells and power rings that interfere with hammer manipulation if mounted as low as they should be on a lever action. Sightron also fugged up the S-1 G2 1 3/4 -5 x32 with a huge ocular bell and power ring. I swear I don't know what the dipshyts who design these scpoes are smoking. Must be the same retards that design noisy hunting coats with few pockets and Savage rifle stocks.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
I don't like the looks of a belled objective on a lever gun. Straight tubes look great to my eye. I love this pig plex reticle on my Leupold 1-4.

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Too many of the LVPOs take on too tacticool of a look for lever guns. This one is an exception. https://www.bushnell.com/scopes/vie...ion-1-6x24-riflescope/BU-RT1624BS15.html
How does that pig plex show up for you in the woods at dark thirty ? It looks too fine to show up well to me and there are lots of reviews to that effect. That Bushnell trophy weighs 18 oz.. Another brick with lenses. Wouldn't want it on my lever gun.

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2-7x 32 mm Vortex Viper with the Versa plex reticle on my Marlin 336. They don't make those anymore and I wish I would have bought two. I believe Leupold makes a similiar scope.

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I now have three so-called LPVOs, all 30mm, and all about a pound. One thing they have IMO over traditional 1” scopes is a wide-open view at low power that is very easy to get behind and pick up targets in. Two of them also have pretty generous ER. To me, that’s a good trade-off for a bit of weight and bulk, but to each his own. Ain’t got any leverguns at present anyway.


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Well the Hawkes certainly look good for my purpose.

Anyone running one? Reliable?


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I have 2-7x33 Leupolds, 1.5-5x Leupolds, 1.5-5x Simmons, and 1.5-5x Bushnells on Marlin, Mossberg, and Savage lever guns. They are work as well as I need them to work.

My preferred still-hunting rifles, a Ruger 44 International and a couple of Winchester 100s, have Leupold 1.5-5x Vari X-IIIs or Weaver K1.5s on them.

Back when Leupold would change reticles for a small price, I had them put heavy duplex reticles on VX2 2-7x33s. The heavy duplex reticle came standard on the shotgun scopes, but those were only made in Rifleman, VX-I, and VX-1 series scopes.

The old B&L, later Bushnell, ScopeChief 1.5-5x20s have nice optics and can regularly be found in excellent condition on eBay.

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Originally Posted by Fotis
Well the Hawkes certainly look good for my purpose.

Anyone running one? Reliable?

I have an Endurance LER (old model) that had its ass kicked by a Mini 14, but that’s a tough ride. I think ingwe is still running a couple. Higher grade ones have coil bias springs, or used to could anyway.

If you buy one be sure and keep the receipt and register the warranty lest you become SOL if it breaks.


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I don't like the looks of a belled objective on a lever gun. Straight tubes look great to my eye. I love this pig plex reticle on my Leupold 1-4.

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Too many of the LVPOs take on too tacticool of a look for lever guns. This one is an exception. https://www.bushnell.com/scopes/vie...ion-1-6x24-riflescope/BU-RT1624BS15.html
How does that pig plex show up for you in the woods at dark thirty ? It looks too fine to show up well to me and there are lots of reviews to that effect. That Bushnell trophy weighs 18 oz.. Another brick with lenses. Wouldn't want it on my lever gun.

I honestly don't know. I haven't piddled with it in low light.

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Fotis,
The used market seems to be the best route for proper levergun scopes. Regardless of the radical turnover in the riflescope market, a 20 year old scope doesn't mysteriously become obsolete.

Like right now, there's a burris mini 2-7 on ebay. Light years more precise and rugged than the old friction adjustment 2-7 leupold ultralight, but equally light. Every animal I ever shot with a scoped levergun, burris had the right compact scope. I do miss the old burris stuff.

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