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Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by steve4102
Lets Try this one again.

Originally Posted by steve4102
Here let’s try this one without the semantics.

Solid Hardwood T&G flooring, individual boards, random lengths.

Sold as 4 inch wide.

How many Board Feet required to do a 20’x20’ floor, no waste and no guessing.

Boards are 3/4 thick, same thickness as a 1x4, or 1x6. so to calculate BF you use 1" thickness

Where the floor is installed is irrelevant.

Steve... Store bought lumber is Nominal... ALL 1" lumber is sold as 3/4". It is also Appearance Graded (B and Better kinda thing)... NOT #1, #2, #3 Structural graded.

IF you hire a mill to slab out 3/4" lumber from a tree... it will be 9/16"+/- after it dries and you S4S it...

IF you were putting up rough sawn lumber as my pics show... and you had your mill man specifically mill it as 3/4 your 100 SF house would require 75 BF of lumber to cover the 100 SF...

But that plan is so stupid... not even you would do it.
Face it, you can’t figure it out

You just can’t, pity


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CashisKing
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Originally Posted by steve4102
Here, Lemmy helps ya, and we can start over with something easier for you.

You built a deck frame that is 16’ x 16’ for a total of 256 SF.

How many 5/4 x 6 x 16’ ft deck boards are required to install the decking. No spacing, no overhang, simple.

I’ll wait.
Feel free to use a calculator

5/4 board are nominal 1"... they will be 5.5" wide... two make 11"...

You 256 SF deck will require 22 to get to 11'... the last 5' will require 11 or 12 depending on the moisture content and the gap you intend to leave.

BUT 5/4 board is brokedick product... just like T1-11...

No one with half a brain uses it because it simply will not last. The pith in modern SYP is terrible and 5/4 is made from really small chitty trees.

Wrong Again.

22 + 11 = 33 Wrong

22 + 12 = 34 Wrong

16' x 12" = 192 inches. Correct
192" / 5.5" = 34.9, or 35 boards. Correct Answer is 35 boards.

And you call other member idiots.

Bwahahaha

You win Steve... Build your 5/4 board deck... Use 24" centers also... what could go wrong.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Face it, you can’t figure it out

You just can’t, pity

Steve... 1% of the population is literally dumber that dog chit.

You make those people look like Rhodes Scholars.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by steve4102
Face it, you can’t figure it out

You just can’t, pity

Steve... 1% of the population is literally dumber that dog chit.

You make those people look like Rhodes Scholars.
Maybe, but I can convert SF to BF in my sleep, something you can't even do with pad-n-paper or a calculator.

So, let me solve this Oh so difficult problem for you.

Ruff sawn 1" x 4" x 1' long equals .33333 Board Feet

Run that same board through the mill to make it S4S and it becomes 3/4" x 3 1/2" x 1' long actual size. It is still considered .333333 Board Feet.

Run it through the T&G mill and it is still 3/4" x 3 1/2" x 1' including the tongue. Again still considered .33333 Board Feet.

However because the tongue is usually 1/4 inch long and is not exposed, the actual exposed surface becomes 3 1/4", again still calculated as .3333 board feet. even though there is a loss of about 20% surface area.

Now back to your problem.

The room is 20x20, or 400 Square Feet

to convert that 400 SF to BF,

400 x 1.20 = 480 BF.

So to cover a 400 Square Foot floor, or wall with 4" T&G, one must purchase 480 Board feet.

From this number you can add your waste.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Maybe, but I can convert SF to BF in my sleep, something you can't even do with pad-n-paper or a calculator.

So, let me solve this Oh so difficult problem for you.

Ruff sawn 1" x 4" x 1' long equals .33333 Board Feet

Run that same board through the mill to make it S4S and it becomes 3/4" x 3 1/2" x 1' long actual size. It is still considered .333333 Board Feet.

Run it through the T&G mill and it is still 3/4" x 3 1/2" x 1' including the tongue. Again still considered .33333 Board Feet.

However because the tongue is usually 1/4 inch long and is not exposed, the actual exposed surface becomes 3 1/4", again still calculated as .3333 board feet. even though there is a loss of about 20% surface area.

Now back to your problem.

The room is 20x20, or 400 Square Feet

to convert that 400 SF to BF,

400 x 1.20 = 480 BF.

So to cover a 400 Square Foot floor, or wall with 4" T&G, one must purchase 480 Board feet.

From this number you can add your waste.

Steve... you are trying way way to hard...

I have already assured you... that you are far dumber than dog chit.

You can simply relax now... and enjoy your prize.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by earlybrd
Stevie tha yanky math wiz 🥴

Easy now...

Don't be throwing Pythagorean theorems and chit... at him...


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by steve4102
Maybe, but I can convert SF to BF in my sleep...

Send me an addy... I'll mail ya a cookie.

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Originally Posted by milespatton
[quote]The best "carpenter" story I've heard was asking the newbie to give me a measurement.
"6 feet 4 inches and (under his breath 1,2,3,4) 4 of those little dit marks!"/quote]

I am a retired Survey Crew Chief, from ARDOT. When I first went to work for them in 1967, I was told nobody but whores and carpenters dealt in inches. I later on doing bridge surveys, including surveys to widen existing bridges. I had to measure the existing bridge, deck. substructure, etc. looking for as built vs plans. That was required in inches (carpenters make the forms). Later we went Metric for a while. At one time I was carrying tapes, and survey rods for measuring in feet/tenths, Feet/inches, and Metric, so i have heard a lot of variations on the above post. miles

Miles, if you want to screw with a carpenter - give him a surveyor's tape!
I had a kid working with me one summer, framing houses, who brought his Dad's (a surveyor) tape measure.
As it had inch markings on the other side, he did just fine - but no one else on the crew (except me) had a prayer of getting it right.
I did, being the son of an engineer. My crew members screwed up so much stuff the first week, I BOUGHT him a (carpenter's) tape measure, gave it to him on Mon morning, and told him to hide that thing. Most carpenters will refuse to even try a metric tape - and recognize what it is right away.
For even more [bleep] & grins - show up among carpenters with a bricklayer's rule! laugh


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Originally Posted by steve4102
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Originally Posted by steve4102
How many square feet in a 1x6x10?

5 SF

Also

5 BF... because it is a 1"

Wrong

A 1x6 S4S measures 5.5 inches wide.

1 x 5.5 x10= 55/12= 4.58 square feet, or 5 Board feet.


I purchase rough cut lumber for my furniture projects. Actual widths are used for calculating board feet. Some boards may be skip-planed but never edged. I get better lumber at a lower cost than Menards.

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