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I think there is a lot of plain old retail gouging going on. Here in the Northwest we have an employee owned store chain called BiMart, historically their sporting goods dept have been the low price leader in mass market guns, ammo and reloading. In December, I bought a pound of 4064 and a pound of BLC-2, each was in the low 30's...I wanna say 33 bucks. These big retailers like Sportsmens Whse, IMO, are just flatass gouging us.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Bi Mart is where I first saw +$45 4227, the other powders were in the $35 range.
Didn't even look when I was there last week as their supply and variety seems to be getting lower and lower every trip I manage to get up there.
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Ya think,that's Criminal,friggen thieves!
Rehab is for quitters! THEY are all guilty! Name one honest politician! DEFINE Treason. God bless the USA Democrats ARE the plague! RINO'S need to be hunted! Who's a bigger puzzy than Paul Ryan? Mike Pence? John Kerry ? REELECT NOBODY! Except Trump
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IMR 4350 $74.99 at Cabela's in Allen Tx last weekend.
H4350 was $69.99
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I've made a few comments and other threads about the prices coming up now they're here. and I do believe the 4350 varieties were the high point of the prices.. I've got some 3031 coming in and they were going to be $60 a pound.. other places where are listed at like 64 or 5. my wholesaler does pretty good. they warned me a little while back that the 4350s one variety was going to be 59 and one variety69 a pound on their prices
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Some powder here is 75 a pound.
It isn't energy that kills, its holes.
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Just this week a friend gave me a pound of IMR 4350, guess I owe him a steak dinner.
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Have they EVER been cheep?
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Just this week a friend gave me a pound of IMR 4350, guess I owe him a steak dinner. Dadgummit the hoarders!
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Reloading industry is essentially a monopoly. Remember that when you read Hodgepodge’s mission statement next time.
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Just this week a friend gave me a pound of IMR 4350, guess I owe him a steak dinner. Hoarder. That's wrong.
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its just plain old price gouging.
Trump is in for the Repubs. So what that means is that the price gouging trash is going all out to the most of it.
Its all just greed.
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Reloading industry is essentially a monopoly. Remember that when you read Hodgepodge’s mission statement next time. Really? So how does Hodgdon control VV or Alliant or Shooter's World? Not saying that these 'new' prices don't suck, but I wouldn't place much blame on Hodgdon. Remember, they don't make powder they just buy it from other companies.
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its just plain old price gouging.
Trump is in for the Repubs. So what that means is that the price gouging trash is going all out to the most of it.
Its all just greed.
Best Heavy Some greed, but a lot of the problem involves Ukraine and Gaza. It seems most of the raw ingredients for powder are going to fill artillery shell orders. China is the primary source of gun cotton and has diverted supplies to Russia.
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its just plain old price gouging.
Trump is in for the Repubs. So what that means is that the price gouging trash is going all out to the most of it.
Its all just greed.
Best Heavy Lol - no. Maybe if powder and supplies were the only thing going up. Where have you been the last 3 years on inflation and other economic success stories of the Biden administration? ALL aspects of making these things have gotten more expensive. All regulations for making these things have increased and compliance is more expensive. DEMAND is up and this is still a free-ish market economy. It's not gouging selling items to willing buyers at fair market prices, especially when input costs have shot WAY up and only now are starting to come down but yet still well above 2020 pricing. That was 4 years ago....
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Trash middlemen, so called distributors have a hand in this up their elbows.
Any of the trash between the factory and the shelf have gouged.
We have all heard every stupid excuse for these powder and primers price increases.
These increases will jump in many cases from one month to the next.
And oh my god, this super tuesday crap just finished and looky here.............prices go up.
its just laughable.
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I think about a statement that was made right here in this thread. something along the lines of 4350 is one of the most popular powders. I agree it is. but it is also been one of the hardest to come by powders for several years now. so why would they not charge more for a high demand item than I would have lower demand item.. it's called capitalism. same guys bitching about the price of it or probably some of the same guys stood in line forever at different places to buy primers to resell it a profit..
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I boxed-up all of my reloading do'ins quite a while back, I'm not a 'shooting addict'. As long as folks pay the high prices they'll keep going higher. Just like the $100K pick-up trucks. Ain't no PlayYow
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