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I actually see a lot of VV in Wisconsin. Especially at Scheel's lately.
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It was widely broadcasted that a jump in powder prices was coming. Also gave the reasons.
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I call it Boy Scouts motto; STAYING PREPARED!
You boys ain't learned a damn thing these past forty years!!
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It was widely broadcasted that a jump in powder prices was coming. Also gave the reasons. In a competing market, that knowledge would have prompted producers to add capacity to take as much advantage of the attractive prices as possible and secure market share.
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I just bought H4350 for 329.00/8 pounds. About 41 a pound.
I might sell a Varget jug and buy more 4350. Seems to shoot better for me in a 260. I imagine powder will increase as the dollar weakens.
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Cabelas is the same price here but H4350 is 10 bucks a lb cheaper. ...but IMR is a totally different Powder
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2018 I bought 8 pounds of Re23 for $190 +$36 shipping from midway.
Today that would cost $480 + shipping.
[$480/$190]^-6 years = 1.167 -> 16.7% interest compounded annually.
2017 I paid $25/pound + shipping for CFE223
Today that would cost $50/pound + shipping
[$50/$25]^-7 years = 1.104 -> 10.4% interest compounded annually.
2014 I bought 8 pounds H4350 $176 + shipping
Today that would cost $370 + shipping
[$370/$176]^-10 = 1.077 -> 7.7% interest compounded annually.
The S&P 500 over the last 100 years has returned 10.5%
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Cabelas is the same price here but H4350 is 10 bucks a lb cheaper. ...but IMR is a totally different Powder I know that, but it's fairly comparable in the fact that they can often be used in similar cartridges. If the price of IMR was putting me onto bread and water, the alternative 10 bucks cheaper is a way to create an alternative with a powder that's not the same but often characterized as "more temp sensitive, same burn rate but not a 1:1 replacement - work up new".
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Just stopped in at a LGS, everything there is prices from the last jacked up price, when new stuff comes in it will be higher. Pistol and shotgun powders were pretty cheap. Cheapest rifle powder was CFE 223 @ $37 a lb. IMR 3031 was $42. IMR 4350, H4350, and Varget were $50. Some others like IMR 4227, 4198 were in the high $40's.
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its just plain old price gouging.
Trump is in for the Repubs. So what that means is that the price gouging trash is going all out to the most of it.
Its all just greed.
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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We are talking Australian powders right? Time to find a Ball powder alternative for now.
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WTF does a friend gifting me a pound of powder have to do with hoarding ? I'm not seeing the connection.
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The only real way to buy powder/primers these days Online....split the order with buds (if you have any) Haz mat & shipping suck Make an order for more than you need/want Actually just bought some H4350 & RE15 from a buddy......$38/pound https://www.powdervalley.com/product/hodgdon-h4350/
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Who buys a pound of anything? 8lbs at powder valley. Paid waaaay less than $79/lb ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/5yJY71TS/IMG-3003.jpg) Laffin
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Who buys a pound of anything? 8lbs at powder valley. Paid waaaay less than $79/lb Laffin Atta boy ! Fuggin' A
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We are talking Australian powders right? Time to find a Ball powder alternative for now.
WW760/H-414 I have focused on Ball Powders for quite some time. Hunter BigGame Tac 2230/Xterminator #2 #5 #7 True Blue Silhouette 244 296 748 Magnum MagPro CFE BLK Etc
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I paid 69.99 + tax for a pound or Reloder 16 last week. My friend who manages the gun department told me to buy any powder I needed now. 15% increase on his pallet in the back. I also got 8 lb of Reloder 26 for $449. A feller was grumbling at the counter and said he was going back to factory ammo. My bud told him “Hold my beer, and watch it next week” Also advised him to buy now as big price increases were coming. All of Hodgdons crap is overpriced too. It ain’t going to end, folks!
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I paid 69.99 + tax for a pound or Reloder 16 last week. My friend who manages the gun department told me to buy any powder I needed now. 15% increase on his pallet in the back. I also got 8 lb of Reloder 26 for $449. A feller was grumbling at the counter and said he was going back to factory ammo. My bud told him “Hold my beer, and watch it next week” Also advised him to buy now as big price increases were coming. All of Hodgdons crap is overpriced too. It ain’t going to end, folks!
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WTF does a friend gifting me a pound of powder have to do with hoarding ? I'm not seeing the connection. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/63q3XcfH/301-B3-F9-F-2290-4-E7-D-AE18-EB22-D0833-C3-F.gif)
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