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Originally Posted by boatanchor
I have many gun cleaning rods, my favorite are the bore tech.
Something not yet mentioned is that the rod really does not matter if you use a rod guide
I have a rod guide for every rifle I own most are Possum hollow or Lucas, best investment in gun care you can make and very affordable also

So you are saying you have damaged a barrel before use of a bore guide? What barrel damage did you experience before you started using bore guides?


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This appears to be the top of the line option for coated segmented cleaning rods. Way too expensive for emergency use only.

https://www.proshotproducts.com/30-...it-with-Pro-Tuff-Coated-Rods-_p_775.html

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Like GeoW, I am also interested in anybody who has evidence that a cleaning rod, of any sort, damaged a hunting rifle's barrel enough to be either seen through a bore-scope--or to affect accuracy in a barrel that's been shot a lot. Not saying it couldn't happen, but would like to hear about it.

Back when I first heard/read about bore-guides there weren't many on the market. So I made my own, with case fired in that rifle, with the primer pocket drilled out to a large enough diameter to accommodate the rods I then owned.


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Originally Posted by JSTUART
I have been using these steel Parker Hale rods since the nineties and have had no issues. The handle on the short one doesn't rotate as I use it to clean the chamber with paper towel wound around the brass jag.

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This is my field kit...for any obstructions in the paddock I pull a projectile and drop (half-ish) the powder then fire what is left to clear the barrel. Never been an issue with that.
The pull through cleans everything up.

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I am not fond of segmented rods, particularly not the steel military variety.


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Originally Posted by GeoW
Originally Posted by boatanchor
I have many gun cleaning rods, my favorite are the bore tech.
Something not yet mentioned is that the rod really does not matter if you use a rod guide
I have a rod guide for every rifle I own most are Possum hollow or Lucas, best investment in gun care you can make and very affordable also

So you are saying you have damaged a barrel before use of a bore guide? What barrel damage did you experience before you started using bore guides?


No idea if they make a difference to the bore or not, I use bore guides to keep crap out of my action, trigger and woodwork.


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Originally Posted by Deans
Haven't seen a Raleigh salve can in a long time. Brings back memories.

This one should amuse you then, I carry my 'Oh Shit Kit' in an old gal 1911 squad cleaning tin.

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Originally Posted by JSTUART
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Haven't seen a Raleigh salve can in a long time. Brings back memories.

This one should amuse you then, I carry my 'Oh Shit Kit' in an old gal 1911 squad cleaning tin.

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Not seen one of those. Cans like that do come in handy.


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One of my spare one piece rods stays in the truck at all times. It rides nice on top of my back seat and has for years with a .22 caliber jag on it.

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I once took a 2 inch section of a barrel, faced off each end square and slid it onto an old pitted cleaning rod from a military rifle. I slid the barrel chunk back and forth on the rod hundreds of times, deliberatly trying to damage it. Didn't seem to affect it at all. I think those old rifles with the worn muzzles were from countless times getting wet and corroding.

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That makes sense--but it also could partly be from the cleaning rod itself getting wet and corroding, at least in older military rifles where the rod's carried in a slot under the barrel.


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It was the rifling I was trying to damage, not the old rod.

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I understood that--but it doesn't mean an old pitted rod might not be factor in damaging the muzzles of barrels on older rifles, which were often made of softer steels.


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Ever seen the inside of a brand new Savage barrel? Now watch it shoot 1/2 moa out of the box.


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Concerning field rods:
For 25 years I carried a packet of US GI cleaning rod sections with a loop tip piece and some patches for wiping snow and goo from bores accidentally plugged. It came in really handy several times. The kit was useful for 7mm and larger bores.

A new 6.5 rifle required a new field rod. The best replacement for the 30-cal set seemed be a product from KleenBore, their S170 "Universal Multi-Section Cleaning Rod Set with Vinyl Pouch .22-.45 Cal."
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From mfr's blurb: Developed for field use, this compact and lightweight military style rod set has been supplied to the US military for its reliable use over the years. Cleans .22-.45 Cal. 30″ Length. ...

This rod is likely to replace my GI sectional rod. The short "adapter" section accepts standard tips with 8-32 threads.

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Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Ever seen the inside of a brand new Savage barrel? Now watch it shoot 1/2 moa out of the box.

Yep, have seen many--partly due to having been sent several for rifle reviews. Have mentioned a few times here and there that they shot very well despite the reaming rings common in 'em.

Which is why I often installed Dyna Bore-Coat in Savages, so I didn't have to clean the damn barrels so frequently while "test-shooting" the rifles. But in the past couple years have found new Savage barrels to be much smoother. Maybe they were listening....


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I bought several of these a year ago for myself and a few hunting buddies after one of them plugged a muzzle in muddy conditions. Very handy to keep in the hunting pack for emergencies. I wouldn’t make a habit of cleaning a bore with it, but for field use it is the best I have found yet. I keep a USGI rod kit in the trunk of my car.

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Like GeoW, I am also interested in anybody who has evidence that a cleaning rod, of any sort, damaged a hunting rifle's barrel enough to be either seen through a bore-scope--or to affect accuracy in a barrel that's been shot a lot. Not saying it couldn't happen, but would like to hear about it.

Back when I first heard/read about bore-guides there weren't many on the market. So I made my own, with case fired in that rifle, with the primer pocket drilled out to a large enough diameter to accommodate the rods I then owned.

Some of the Blue Sky Garands out of Korea in the 90's had muzzles that appeared mechanically worn, and it looked like cleaning rods could have been the culprit. I saw some of them.

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Originally Posted by cotis
I bought several of these a year ago for myself and a few hunting buddies after one of them plugged a muzzle in muddy conditions. Very handy to keep in the hunting pack for emergencies. I wouldn’t make a habit of cleaning a bore with it, but for field use it is the best I have found yet. I keep a USGI rod kit in the trunk of my car.

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Blue or black tape on the muzzle keeps that from happening.



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Originally Posted by Featherweight6555
Dewey rods, wiped clean after each pass. Right , wrong IDK. Works for me.
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