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A New Mexico jury found "Rust" armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the shooting of the film's cinematographer. The guilty verdict against her is, in my opinion as a retired attorney, the best thing that could have happened for Alec Baldwin, who has also been charged with involuntary manslaughter. ("What does the 'Rust' armorer's criminal conviction mean for Alec Baldwin’s case?" March 7)

If the armorer was criminally negligent and handed Baldwin a gun that had live ammunition, then how could he be held responsible? Under common industry practice, he had a right to rely upon the armorer in believing the weapon to be harmless.

The issue as to whether he pulled the trigger or cocked the gun and it went off accidentally is irrelevant since, either way, an unloaded gun would have done no harm.

A jury should have no trouble acquitting Baldwin since another person working on the set of "Rust" has already been found guilty of causing the tragedy.

NM has to be very careful or Hollywood will stop making cheap movies there.

She DID NOT hand Alec the gun. She was not on set when the Pietta fired.
A male assistant handed Baldwin the gun, and he has pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor.

Well, the two people who were by industry practice DIRECTLY responsible for making sure the weapon was safe before handing it to the actor, have been convicted of failing to make sure it was safe.

He was never in any real peril of any meaningful punishment. Everyone knew he would walk from day 1.

I'm not a fan of Alec Baldwin. But if he is found guilty of a crime it is going to set a precedent that most of us don't want to see. Be careful of what you ask for.

I had read (may be untrue) that Baldwin's pointing the revolver at the victim and firing it wasn't part of the script. In other words, he was horsing around with a gun. If this is true, I'd think "playing with guns" would contribute to a case for negligence.

It's also been reported that the cast/staff were using the revolver for recreational shooting during the off hours and that drug use was taking place. This demonstrates a loose and unprofessional environment was present. As the producer and being present on site, he is ultimately responsible for how things were run and had the ability to correct the resulting careless environment.

Yep, but you'll never convince the mob.

Did anyone here honestly think he would be convicted?

There is no such thing as a safe gun as in a person can point it at another person and fire it.

For that reson there are very specific rules for safe handling of firearms and anyone who thinks any gun is "safe" is violating the first rule.

The Screen Actors Guild publishes rules for firearms on movies sets and pointing any firearm at any person off set is strictly prohibited, much less cocking the firearm and pulling the trigger.

It sad that anyone on a firearms site thinks they can practice unsafe gun handling because some other person was responsible for making a real gun "safe".


If you point a gun at a person and pull the trigger causing a bullet to rip through their heart I hope you spend time in jail.


A few here need to read a book on firearm safety before they become the next Baldwin crying that they were told the gun was unloaded.

^^^^^^^^ Mr.Cheeto back to tell us how dangerous John Wick is, lucky 100 people didn't die lolololol

I agree with this, but sometimes the law does not coincide with common sense or what's right.

The round count and body count in the Wick movies were much greater than your idol's, Baldwin, low buget Rust movie.

But because the crew on the Wick movies followed SAG firearm safety rules nobody was killed or wounded.

The fact you don't get how bad is your anology shows the class how clueless you are about safe gun handling.

You really need to get some training on how to safely handle firearms before you are crying about how you thought the gun was unloaded at the crime scene.

Can you spell common sense fatboy ?,,,,hey tell us about your Wyoming AR'S again, you lying POS.

Wonder how the crew of the Wick film feels about bump stocks?

It just “went off”!

Wrong. Common hearsay on that topic was false. Rewind Dave Hall's testimony. He took the gun, didn't really check anything. Handed it back girl who handed it to Baldwin.

So if she is not even on the set, how can she vouch for the gun? How can she be found guilty at all not even being there?

Why would anyone run the set with her not there then? Wouldn't that be a violation?

IF the assistant was the one giving the gun shouldn't that assistant be the one responsible? OR the director for filming while the armorer was not present?

Is she the fall gal now and going to get rich behind the scenes for taking the guilt?

Whole thing is weird anyway. Especially since the gal that died was working on an exposing documentary about child sex trafficking that could affect many in the film industry....