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So reloading for 308 cal which I have done for many years but just recently got back into reloading'
So using a Lee Reloader which only neck size. Why do I have some reloaded ammo give me resistance cambering into my rifle?
These have been fire form in same rifle. Do I have my Lee sizing die mal-adjusted and resizing too much of the cartridge neck?


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My first guess it’s time to PFLR and bump the shoulder back. Need the ability to FL resize for that.


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Originally Posted by alpinecrick
My first guess it’s time to PFLR and bump the shoulder back. Need the ability to FL resize for that.

Yep. Most likely headspace issue. Bump the shoulders back and should be good. If not next I would check your seating depth and make sure your not jamming hard in the lands

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How many loadings of that brass with the Lee Loader?

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Gonna try backing off a bit. Funny thing is that it is not with every shell.


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Originally Posted by 300_savage
How many loadings of that brass with the Lee Loader?

Approximately 3, playing with reloads.


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Originally Posted by marzoom
Gonna try backing off a bit. Funny thing is that it is not with every shell.

That is not unusual at all. Individual pieces of brass will “spring back” a different amount.


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Also, might be getting to the point where the brass needs annealed.


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Redding Body die would take care of that issue.

If they make a 338 Federal Body Die, you could size the cases giving you problems without disassembling the loaded rounds.


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Originally Posted by alpinecrick
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Gonna try backing off a bit. Funny thing is that it is not with every shell.

That is not unusual at all. Individual pieces of brass will “spring back” a different amount.

And annealing after every firing usually gets laughed at, but not by the guys that do it to avoid this very issue......


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Originally Posted by marzoom
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How many loadings of that brass with the Lee Loader?

Approximately 3, playing with reloads.
When I used a Lee Loader many years ago, I found that FL sizing was necessary every 4-5 loads.

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Originally Posted by Feral_American
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Gonna try backing off a bit. Funny thing is that it is not with every shell.

That is not unusual at all. Individual pieces of brass will “spring back” a different amount.

And annealing after every firing usually gets laughed at, but not by the guys that do it to avoid this very issue......


Full length resize every time. Annealing is not necessary, there are 10’s of thousands of rounds in that pile and years of shooting and reloading, not one case has been annealed.

The idea that neck sizing saves you anything is proven that it doesn’t when you can’t get your reloads into your chamber and close the bolt…


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I don't neck size anything, but I've found annealing does what it's supposed to do.

10's of thousands of cases fired once or twice is not the same as a couple few hundred fired dozens.

I'll judge what's necessary for myself......


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Originally Posted by Feral_American
I don't neck size anything, but I've found annealing does what it's supposed to do.

10's of thousands of cases fired once or twice is not the same as a couple few hundred fired dozens.

I'll judge what's necessary for myself......

Choose all you want, you won’t shoot in a lifetime what I do in a year. Once or twice on any of that brass was over 30 years ago…


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Originally Posted by shrapnel
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I don't neck size anything, but I've found annealing does what it's supposed to do.

10's of thousands of cases fired once or twice is not the same as a couple few hundred fired dozens.

I'll judge what's necessary for myself......

Choose all you want, you won’t shoot in a lifetime what I do in a year. Once or twice on any of that brass was over 30 years ago…

Yeah, ok.


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Originally Posted by Feral_American
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I don't neck size anything, but I've found annealing does what it's supposed to do.

10's of thousands of cases fired once or twice is not the same as a couple few hundred fired dozens.

I'll judge what's necessary for myself......

Choose all you want, you won’t shoot in a lifetime what I do in a year. Once or twice on any of that brass was over 30 years ago…

Yeah, ok.


It’s ok to anneal, but could you tell me how long it would take to anneal and load that much ammunition?


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Originally Posted by shrapnel
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I don't neck size anything, but I've found annealing does what it's supposed to do.

10's of thousands of cases fired once or twice is not the same as a couple few hundred fired dozens.

I'll judge what's necessary for myself......

Choose all you want, you won’t shoot in a lifetime what I do in a year. Once or twice on any of that brass was over 30 years ago…

Yeah, ok.


It’s ok to anneal, but could you tell me how long it would take to anneal and load that much ammunition?

I have a better question....

What is your "tens of thousands" of rounds of ammo, and what is it for? That would determine if annealing would be beneficial. For example, I have a stock pile of reloaded 556 ammo and a metric ass load more to reload. In fact, i just bought a Dillon to do it. Not a single round will be annealed because if it's ever needed it's just gonna lay on the ground and stay there.

I have a very hard time believing that "tens of thousands" of rounds are fired dozens of times every year as you say, but, whatever. And besides, I'm betting very heavy odds that your "pile" is outside the scope of the context of the OP, and of my response to the OP. Maybe you're just seeing an opportunity to brag up on your "pile". I dunno.


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Originally Posted by Feral_American
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I don't neck size anything, but I've found annealing does what it's supposed to do.

10's of thousands of cases fired once or twice is not the same as a couple few hundred fired dozens.

I'll judge what's necessary for myself......

Choose all you want, you won’t shoot in a lifetime what I do in a year. Once or twice on any of that brass was over 30 years ago…

Yeah, ok.


It’s ok to anneal, but could you tell me how long it would take to anneal and load that much ammunition?

I have a better question....

What is your "tens of thousands" of rounds of ammo, and what is it for? That would determine if annealing would be beneficial. For example, I have a stock pile of reloaded 556 ammo and a metric ass load more to reload. In fact, i just bought a Dillon to do it. Not a single round will be annealed because if it's ever needed it's just gonna lay on the ground and stay there.

I have a very hard time believing that "tens of thousands" of rounds are fired dozens of times every year as you say, but, whatever. And besides, I'm betting very heavy odds that your "pile" is outside the scope of the context of the OP, and of my response to the OP. Maybe you're just seeing an opportunity to brag up on your "pile". I dunno.


Just answer the first question…


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It is 6:40 AM here, this is guns and ammo for the day we will be shooting. It isn’t about how much ammunition you have it’s about how much you shoot and reload. The original question was about a hard closing of reloaded ammunition and I addressed it with full length resizing, which does work, this is just the evidence of such.


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