How does this sound? Just because you "can" walk on the mult-use path doesn't mean you "should." - that's a stretch when comparing bikes and people to bikes on roads built for high speed travel and vehicles weighing two tons or more. Most roads in the US were simply not designed for cyclist safety, they have been modified with extra shoulders and lines but it's not like Europe where they've been integrated in the planning.
I make every effort to get out of the way when a cyclist approaches but it's a wooded trail and often they come up fast and by the time you hear "on your left" you only have moments to collect yourself.
I don't think it's a stretch. When I walk on multi-use paths, I am sharing them with bicyclists going on average about 5 times faster than I walk. When I bicycle on roadways, I normally bicycle on roadways where motor vehicles are going less than 4 times as fast as me, most often closer to 2 time faster than me.
And of course we hold that value set wrt motorists who mow down cyclists, right?
Deflection ALLERT
This thread is about a selfish 62 YO bicyclist that killed a 81 YO woman pedestrian.
Retard alert. Another retard has chimed in.
Show me proof of the broad assertion that the OP wanted to limit the discussion to that. It's certainly not in the OP nor is it a norm in internet discussions to keep the conversation very narrowly focused. Given that you have flighty values, I can certainly see why my comment made you uncomfortable.
Photo below that you posted of yourself is a retard on full display. Paul digging in the nose.
And to think that you got spankfugked by that. Be proud!
I despise the walk areas in parking lots. Please don't stop for me. You just slow me down. You keep driving. I will cross behind you when its safe.
Crosswalks too.. they think they own the road.
I will do everything I can to avoid hitting most anyone with most anything we own. I expect the same in return and common sense should apply.
On the water the rule of tonnage applies... why not on a road way. If you are little stay the hell out of the way. Its the way nature works too...
We rode bikes a lot. Went to an area with a big shoulder and always pulled over with traffic coming. Wouldn't ride a bike path on a bet personally. But those are usually in cities anyway. We walk a lot. Head on a swivel. Even out in the bush its head on a swivel. Its your life. You choose how dumb you want to be.
Should an 81 year old walk? Sure. But shouldn't they be alert enough to know bikes are coming, stay out of the way etc.... I know if I can't then I won't or at least I won't be blaming the others.
Now a hot rod blasting down the road mowing everything over in sight is the other extreme and thats wrong too. Hot rod defined many different ways.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
Should an 81 year old walk? Sure. But shouldn't they be alert enough to know bikes are coming, stay out of the way etc.... I know if I can't then I won't or at least I won't be blaming the others.
Let me know if you feel the same when you’re 81 and get tagged by a cyclist when you are on a multi-use path.
E-Bikes have only made the situation worse. People who could never have achieved 25 mph on a bike (think LBP style) now fly up and down the multiuse trails with reckless abandon.
Got any pics of the riders??
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
E-Bikes have only made the situation worse. People who could never have achieved 25 mph on a bike (think LBP style) now fly up and down the multiuse trails with reckless abandon.
This one is very easy for me. When I pass a pedestrian on my bicycle, and I have to do it within close proximity, I pass with minimum speed disparity. I never yell "ON YOUR LEFT." Many don't know what it means. It will confuse or startle some. I will say "I am easing around your left." I most often exchange cordialities as I pass.
LOTS of pedestrians have buds. Pedestrians in parks and on paths tend to have very low situational awareness. They are often in la-la land and in sightseeing mode. Armed with that knowledge, it is incumbent upon me to expect unpredictable behavior. The best mitigating measure for me is passing with minimal speed disparity and communicating when possible.
I have seen pedestrians do remarkably absent minded stuff. Headphones on, walking with the flow of bicycles on a 10 foot wide path, wheel around and do a 180 without so much as a glance over the shoulder. Pedestrians cutting across paths without looking. Pedestrians with dogs on leashes taking up the entire path. One day I watches as an apparently homeless guy was walking on the levee path batture at an angle toward the path. Across the path in the direction he was walking was a street. I suspected he was going to connect to that street. I also saw a guy and gal cyclist riding on the levee path from the pedestrians blind side at a speed that would have them arriving at the same place at the same time. My wife and I were riding behind them. I could see it developing. Had I been the other cyclists, I would have slowed. They didn't and the pedestrian walked right into the path without looking.
Pedestrians do stupid stuff. Cyclists do stupid stuff. Motorists do stupid stuff. Situational awareness and a defensive posture are helpful.
Pedestrians always have the right away when I ride on shared trails. You should always slow way down passing a pedestrianor go ride on the highways and deal with traffic
Interesting to hear our .22 ammo hoarding friend quoting the Golden Rule, guess he doesn't feel it applies to buying ammo he doesn't need. And then bragging about it as though it is something other than selfish greed, that he feels worthy of adulation.
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