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Why don't you think about this for a bit.

Why was England able to resist Hitler's bombing campaigns for so long. And only a fool would believe that bombing was not a prelude to invasion. The Germans claimed it was a prelude to invasion. They expected a "Blitzkrieg" of Britain just as they had France, Poland, and all the rest of Europe.

England survived the beginning years of WW II solely due to American support, even though we were not fighting. We kept England alive by supplying her with everything form food to planes to tanks.

The same is true of Russia. Russia could not have held off the Germans without our Lend-Lease act. Russia was fond of proclaiming that Germany was defeated with Russian blood and American dollars.

And yes, America would have been safe, probably until about 1947, which is about how long it would have taken the
Axis powers to settle their control over the rest of the world. Then they could have turned the complete military might of Europe and Asia toward N America. What would Canada have done after Britain and the rest of the UK surrendered to Hitler?

Japan would have still had all her Battleships, Aircraft Carriers, planes, and seasoned pilots. The Manhattan Project would have not existed.. Germany would have had nukes and, as they were sharing technology with Japan, most likely Japan would have had nukes by 1947 as well.

The Trump administration stopped the southern border invasion through intervention in other countries. Biden reversed those policies.

How anyone does not know this very recent history boggles the mind but then again the 24hr Campfire has a few real slow folks who love to post their ignorance.

Hitler shot his wad in Russia

I think putty boy a prancing on his pony half necked got the bot boys hot and wanting to puff!

If we didn’t have the Hispanic immigration the USA would be a Muslim nation very quickly.

Pot meet kettle

Oh, so our 20 year war in which we did not win in the middle east stopped us from becoming muslim? F ucks sake

We are past peak woke. America is already fixing itself.

China has more problems then you can imagine. They screwed themselves with "one child" and their property market bubble. Best case they're looking at 3 decades of stagnation, and the most likely scenario's are not that pretty.

I'm also against war and violence in general, but in detail understand it's not a matter of if, but where and how. What I'm most against is war inside, on or near America's borders. The most destructive war is the one fought inside your own borders, so we keep the wars as far from our borders as possible and outsource the bleeding when we can. Part of keeping the violence far from our shores is having allies and bases so we have global reach for our weapons and intelligence, and logistics. Let me remind you, only our carriers and submarines are nuclear powered, and even their crews have to eat.

Yes, we have our problems, but in the grand scheme, they're not as bad as you think, and it's good to hear you're not a true isolationist.

I am referencing population dynamics in the USA.

The Hispanic population is expanding fast enough to keep the Muslim population from outpacing the Christian population sooner than what it is predicted.

Either way……looking foreword to a nice bowl of goat!

Japan bombing hell out of our holdings in the Philippines, and Hawaii don't count?

How about an actual Japanese base in Alaska?

How do people forget? We took no active part in that war until we were attacked. Maybe we should have just surrendered to Japan on Dec 8, 1941?

In order to project meaningful power onto the Japanese mainland we had to construct a chain of island bases across the pacific.

Contrast that with German where we had an ally on their border until France fell, then we had one only 21 miles across the English Channel. Sure we had to defeat the U-boat menace, but we already had a launch point for Normandy.

To the warmongers who want eternal war, with anybody:

With the Proclamation of Neutrality, President Washington established a U.S. foreign policy of neutrality. In his famous 1796 Farewell Address, drafted in collaboration with Hamilton, he reaffirmed his proclamation and admonished his fellow citizens to keep neutrality a cornerstone of American diplomacy. “Our true policy,” Washington’s Farewell declared, is “to steer clear of permanent Alliances with any portion of the foreign world.” The United States continued to do just that until the mid-twentieth century.

The world is not exactly the same as it was in 1797.

Things have changed a bit and for some here it's really scary.

I stand with Pres. George Washington and the Founding Fathers and against warmongers like you. Your bloodlust is reprehensible and unAmerican.

My point exactly.

Japan started bombing US bases on Dec 7, 1941. Six months later, June 6,1942 they attacked the Aleutian Islands. They built a base on Kiska which was the first stepping stone across the Pacific in preparation for invasion of N America.

We responded by building a base on Adak in Aug 1942, from which we attacked Kiska. The US Navy formed a blockade of Kiska and we bombed hell out of the island for almost a year before the Japanese abandoned the island.

Conversely, if England had fallen Germans could of hoped to Iceland then Greenland for their launch point into North America.

Should we have ever taken up arms against any of the Native Americans? Should we have helped the Texans against Santa Anna?
Or pushed the Mexicans out of California, New Mexico, etc?

Would you limit the US to the original 13 states?

The conditions were awful, with dead victims of typhus piled high, and many of the survivors suffering from it, requiring treatment. This scored tremendous propaganda points in favor of what they had intended to do to Germany after the war, so they played it up, instead of categorizing it for what it was, i.e., one in a long string of tragedies associated with the war.

The world was much smaller in 1945 that it was in 1780. And it is a heck of a lot smaller today than it was in '45.

Hell, even Iran or N Korea could reach us with weapons today. Appeasement won't prevent that. Sometime you have to go kill people and break things.

That said, I hope Putin dropped everything those thirteen planes could carry right on Zelensky's head. Along with any American over there helping to suck the American Treasury dry and lining their own pockets.

BULLSCHITT! NAZI APOLOGIST!

Poland, encouraged by the Western powers, perpetrated outrage after outrage (to include mass murder) against former German provinces (ethnically German), designed specifically to provoke Germany to invade. Sound familiar??