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You guys can say what you want because you weren't there to witness what what was said or how the transactions went. He was fine with everything and when he brought them back I asked him what he wanted to do and he ended up walking away. I have offered to trade back so it's up to him. Like I said I never looked at any of the paperwork, I looked at the second scope after he took the first but I never went over it with a fine tooth comb. I quickly checked function and clarity in between customers and it seemed like a decent scope, better then some others on the table. If they were illegal where did the original purchaser get it, he doesn't remember anything about it.

Your defense is you assume everybody knows that they are conterfeit and you're ignorant of the fact that it is illegal to sell counterfeit wares?

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I never knew anything about this whole issue, it's not like it's on the nightly news. This is only the second gun show I have set up at since 1998. The kids are all out of the house so I figured I would start going again. But after all this crap it will be my last one. I will take everything back and the veterans wife will have to figure out something else.

And what a genuine, heartfelt offer it is! I stand corrected guys.

So you didn't know that there was an issue with fake scopes being sold? Then why did you price them so much less than genuine articles? Or did you not know that using another company's name, logo, branding, etc on a similar good was wrong?

Do you see what I mean here?

I never seen Leupold anywhere on them and I never priced them that way. I was really busy taking care of people and trying to price things, answer questions and such. If I would have had more time to inspect all the items in the totes it would have helped. As soon as I started unpacking the dealers were there asking about items and the public shortly after. I was by myself doing the best I could. If you guys have never set up at a gun show, especially after so much time has passed, it was overwhelming with 3 tables full of stuff.

I made the offer to trade back repeatedly now.

My ignore list groweth.

Everything is being counterfeited today not limited to , Zeiss, Swarovski, Eotech's, Leupolds, and other brands. They show up at flea markets, Ebay, and Amazon from sellers.
Evidently U.S. Customs are not doing a good job of stopping them at the port of entry.
I have no dog in this fight but I strongly suggest you 2 MEN get together and get this straightened out , whatever it takes , especially since Brad admitted to committing a crime publicly here.
A persons reputation and "friendship" are worth more than any amount of Money , and I personally would do whatever it took to make my "customer" happy , even at my own expense.
Fighting over Chinese crap is not productive or worth it.

If that offer to trade back was worded that way to me I wouldn't meet with someone like that again either.

Exactly! If I had an "unhappy" customer and wanted to make things right I would have taken a different approach. He is on ignore now, here and in life.

First you assumed he knew they were fake. Then it was "it didn't say Leupold on the box". Now "I never seen Leupold anywhere on them".


Hmmmm, ever changing story.

You sold counterfeit goods, end of discussion. You not only broke the law, but you also keep changing your story.

He is not a customer, he is a dealer. He wanted to make some quick easy cash. He had them marked up over double what we traded for. I have offered several times to trade back no matter how it's worded. I found out he lied about the whole transaction at the gun show too. You guys can put any slant on it you want but he approached me to make the deal and I agreed to his terms and since he is not happy I have offered several times now to trade back. I will return the scopes to the wife and let her do as she wants with them. Any other issues you guys have state them now, let's settle them and move on.

You saw them in person before buying? Were they in a sealed box or are you blind?

He most certainly was your customer.

Both let greed cloud their judgement. There's only about 100 red flags those weren't legit Leupolds. One was hoping no one questioned it, the other was hoping to turn a profit.

I never saw Leupold anywhere on anything and I didn't advertise they were. I never knew about the fake stuff until I read about it this morning. You guys just assume that everybody knows everything you do just because you do. I haven't been around this stuff for years and so much of it looks alike. I had three spotting scopes on the table that looked so much alike you couldn't tell who the manufacturer was without looking at each one really close. Yeah I traded him and when he came back upset I asked him what he wanted to do twice and he just walked away. I could have sold the trade items but I hung onto them in case he came back wanting to trade back.

Wow

It’s poor character to knowingly and willingly sell, trade or represent a counterfeit product without full disclosure from the start! They should have never been offered at any price. That’s criminal. That’s not a judgement. That’s a fact.