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Re: "New" Fake Leupold's tred1956 #19332975 03/26/24
Joined: Oct 2020 Posts: 559 Ames, IA antelopedundee Campfire Regular
antelopedundee Campfire Regular Joined: Oct 2020 Posts: 559 Ames, IA	Originally Posted by tred1956 Here is a link to Leupold's warning https://www.leupold.com/support/resources/counterfeit-warning I wonder how much it costs Leupold to return counterfeits. Would they be justified in destroying them? Or should they require a fee to return them? Last edited by antelopedundee; 03/26/24. He who laughs last is slow-witted.

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Re: "New" Fake Leupold's 160user #19333017 03/26/24
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,256 Central PA R rmb721 Campfire Regular
rmb721 Campfire Regular R Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,256 Central PA	It should not cost Leupold to send back counterfeits. NRA Endowment Member

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's rmb721 #19333196 03/26/24
Joined: Oct 2020 Posts: 559 Ames, IA antelopedundee Campfire Regular
antelopedundee Campfire Regular Joined: Oct 2020 Posts: 559 Ames, IA	Originally Posted by rmb721 It should not cost Leupold to send back counterfeits. I've never sent them anything for any reason. When you send stuff in for repair is there a charge for return shipping? Do they notify you before returning anything? Last edited by antelopedundee; 03/26/24. He who laughs last is slow-witted.

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's antelopedundee #19333457 03/26/24
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,256 Central PA R rmb721 Campfire Regular
rmb721 Campfire Regular R Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,256 Central PA	Originally Posted by antelopedundee Originally Posted by rmb721 It should not cost Leupold to send back counterfeits. I've never sent them anything for any reason. When you send stuff in for repair is there a charge for return shipping? Do they notify you before returning anything? Leupold does not charge shipping to return items in for repair or replacement if repairs can not be made. They do notify you about repairs or replacements. You only pay the shipping to ship to Leupold. Last edited by rmb721; 03/26/24. NRA Endowment Member

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's brad6ppc #19333534 03/26/24
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,008 West Texas L lynntelk Campfire Regular
lynntelk Campfire Regular L Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,008 West Texas	Originally Posted by brad6ppc He is not a customer, he is a dealer. He wanted to make some quick easy cash. He had them marked up over double what we traded for. I have offered several times to trade back no matter how it's worded. I found out he lied about the whole transaction at the gun show too. You guys can put any slant on it you want but he approached me to make the deal and I agreed to his terms and since he is not happy I have offered several times now to trade back. I will return the scopes to the wife and let her do as she wants with them. Any other issues you guys have state them now, let's settle them and move on. Well since you asked for us to state any other issues now, It is my opinion you are done on this board and have no chance to salvage your reputation. Bye.

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Re: "New" Fake Leupold's 160user #19333739 03/26/24
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 204 Alabama falcon007 Campfire Member
falcon007 Campfire Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 204 Alabama	brad6ppc, after reading through all this you're a mfk'ing thief in my opinion.

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's brad6ppc #19333840 03/26/24
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,377 TX B BobbyTomek Campfire Tracker
BobbyTomek Campfire Tracker B Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,377 TX	Originally Posted by brad6ppc I'm not selling any more if his stuff, I will take it back and they will have to deal with it.. OK, my question to you, Brad, is this: You offered to help a "veteran with dementia" sell stuff he could no longer use. But because of what transpired with the scopes, you are now crawfishing on that and not going to help the family. Why would you back out on your offer to help a veteran? I just don't understand how that has anything to do with what transpired between you and the OP at the gun show. Our veterans have been crapped on enough already. Maybe another forum member in that area of MN could step in and help him out since you no longer will do so.

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's 160user #19333934 03/26/24
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,437 Indiana D Dinny Campfire Tracker
Dinny Campfire Tracker D Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,437 Indiana	Good point Bobby! Kinda sorta along the same line of thought I had. Medics bury their mistakes..

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's 160user #19334616 03/26/24
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 176 North Dakota K Kenwin Campfire Member
Kenwin Campfire Member K Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 176 North Dakota	I apologize for changing gears in this thread. I don’t wish to take part in the above mentioned story, but I have a question pertaining to fakes: What models in the Leupold lineup have been verified as fakes? VX models, mark models, HD’s etc. I would like to be better educated on the matter. Thanks

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's 160user #19334635 03/26/24
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 176 North Dakota K Kenwin Campfire Member
Kenwin Campfire Member K Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 176 North Dakota	Maybe us sellers and buyers could utilize a Leupold company confirmation # tagged with the seller to confirm it’s company backed production. Just a thought

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Re: "New" Fake Leupold's 160user #19334646 03/26/24
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,256 Central PA R rmb721 Campfire Regular
rmb721 Campfire Regular R Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,256 Central PA	I think it is mostly VX models. Probably other newer models too. I have never seen a counterfeit Vari-x model. Same with gloss scopes. NRA Endowment Member

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's rmb721 #19334657 03/26/24
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 4,597 North VA A AH64guy Campfire Tracker
AH64guy Campfire Tracker A Joined: May 2009 Posts: 4,597 North VA	Originally Posted by rmb721 I think it is mostly VX models. Probably other newer models too. I have never seen a counterfeit Vari-x model. Same with gloss scopes. Typically VX and Mark 4s - I've seen both.

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's Kenwin #19334671 03/26/24
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,437 Indiana D Dinny Campfire Tracker
Dinny Campfire Tracker D Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,437 Indiana	Originally Posted by Kenwin What models in the Leupold lineup have been verified as fakes? VX models, mark models, HD’s etc. I would like to be better educated on the matter. Thanks Medics bury their mistakes..

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's Kenwin #19334674 03/26/24
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,437 Indiana D Dinny Campfire Tracker
Dinny Campfire Tracker D Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,437 Indiana	Originally Posted by Kenwin Maybe us sellers and buyers could utilize a Leupold company confirmation # tagged with the seller to confirm it’s company backed production. Just a thought A number that could be faked?? No thanks, I'll call Leupold myself. Medics bury their mistakes..

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's 160user #19334741 03/26/24
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,377 TX B BobbyTomek Campfire Tracker
BobbyTomek Campfire Tracker B Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,377 TX	While they are getting more sophisticated with making the cheap clones, it's still pretty easy to tell real from fake. If you familiarize yourself with the product line, there's no need to call Leupold or Zeiss or whoever to confirm. A little diligence is all it takes.

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's 160user #19334801 03/26/24
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,377 TX B BobbyTomek Campfire Tracker
BobbyTomek Campfire Tracker B Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,377 TX	Someone paid $746 for this used scope on gunbroker. I guess AO, red-green illumination, fonts that Zeiss never used along with numerous other red flags weren't enough to tip off the buyer. The seller clearly called it a Zeiss. The Leupold clones posted at the beginning of this thread are much more convincing than the Zeiss clones.

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's Dinny #19334806 03/26/24
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 176 North Dakota K Kenwin Campfire Member
Kenwin Campfire Member K Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 176 North Dakota	Originally Posted by Dinny Originally Posted by Kenwin Maybe us sellers and buyers could utilize a Leupold company confirmation # tagged with the seller to confirm it’s company backed production. Just a thought A number that could be faked?? No thanks, I'll call Leupold myself. I completely agree. I was just creating conversation in the hopes that something could be created and streamlined to curb these issues going forward.

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's BobbyTomek #19334847 03/26/24
Joined: Oct 2020 Posts: 559 Ames, IA antelopedundee Campfire Regular
antelopedundee Campfire Regular Joined: Oct 2020 Posts: 559 Ames, IA	Originally Posted by BobbyTomek Someone paid $746 for this used scope on gunbroker. I guess AO, red-green illumination, fonts that Zeiss never used along with numerous other red flags weren't enough to tip off the buyer. The seller clearly called it a Zeiss. How does GB feel about their platform being used to facilitate the sale of counterfeit items? Do they require sellers to delete such listings? I supposed that I could read their TOS. If you notify a seller directly it might be like eBay where the seller may or may not take it down. He who laughs last is slow-witted.

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's Dinny #19335317 03/27/24
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 141 Va S SquibLoad Campfire Member
SquibLoad Campfire Member S Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 141 Va	Originally Posted by Dinny Originally Posted by Kenwin Maybe us sellers and buyers could utilize a Leupold company confirmation # tagged with the seller to confirm it’s company backed production. Just a thought A number that could be faked?? No thanks, I'll call Leupold myself. As much as I hate to say it, there will probably come a day where calling Leupold isn't really going to help. If you sit back and think about it, you can get around that as well. There are plenty of pics floating around of legit scopes of every model showing the serial #'s.

Re: "New" Fake Leupold's SquibLoad #19335379 03/27/24
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,437 Indiana D Dinny Campfire Tracker
Dinny Campfire Tracker D Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,437 Indiana	Originally Posted by SquibLoad Originally Posted by Dinny Originally Posted by Kenwin Maybe us sellers and buyers could utilize a Leupold company confirmation # tagged with the seller to confirm it’s company backed production. Just a thought A number that could be faked?? No thanks, I'll call Leupold myself. As much as I hate to say it, there will probably come a day where calling Leupold isn't really going to help. If you sit back and think about it, you can get around that as well. There are plenty of pics floating around of legit scopes of every model showing the serial #'s. I'll not discount that as a possibility but Leupold CS has provided enough other details about the scopes I've inquired about to satisfy my curiosity of geniuneness. Medics bury their mistakes..

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