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No mention in this thread that Chauvin and Floyd had some history between them.
Chauvin and Floyd worked together after hours at a bar or a nightclub, I think Floyd was his superior and may have handed Chauvin his paychecks.
I figure Floyd was boning Chauvins ol lady and he finally got a chance at paybacks.
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Trump should have pardoned everyone screwed over by January 6th and a [bleep] load of other incidents he could have pardoned, but chose not to. Please explain to me how Trump could have Pardoned these people. You are engaging with a free born, virtue signaling, village idiot. (But you know that). I know but I'm having fun. Lol, did you see his answer.......... The same way
- President Gerald Ford pardoned President Richard Nixon
- President Jimmy Carter pardoned Vietnam draft dodgers
- President George H.W. Bush pardoned Caspar Weinberger And why could Trump have not pardoned all the Jan. 6 victims the same way? The President can pardon anyone convicted of federal charges. The President cannot pardon people convicted under STATE charges…. Jan 6th was/is federal. Presidential pardon doesn't require a conviction.
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Chauvin did nothing wrong by reacting to changes in circumstance. Floyd continually resisted arrest, refused commands, and attempted escape. The choices pertaining to him were to either allow him to escape or use miminum restraint to subdue. The techniques to subdue did not kill floyd. Nowhere is there medical evidence showing different. Call Chauvin out for not adhering to department P&P but there’s no way to legitimately convict for wrongful death of any sort. A shameful circus.
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Chauvin did nothing wrong by reacting to changes in circumstance. Floyd continually resisted arrest, refused commands, and attempted escape. The choices pertaining to him were to either allow him to escape or use miminum restraint to subdue. The techniques to subdue did not kill floyd. Nowhere is there medical evidence showing different. Call Chauvin out for not adhering to department P&P but there’s no way to legitimately convict for wrongful death of any sort. A shameful circus. Minimum restraint? You mean the Maximal Restraint Technique? It's known that doing what he did can, and will, result in death which is why the training he received(and Lane pointed out) said to move him in the recovery position. https://www.kare11.com/article/news.../89-9f002e3f-972a-4410-86cb-50a1237fc496
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As an recently retired LEO, (34 years) I cannot find away to justify Chauvin's behavior by that I mean the knee on the neck. I was sickened to see that video. The knee on Floyds neck was truly a game changer. Remove that one act from what had transpired and the arrest would have had a different outcome. Just my opinion, as if anyone really cares what I think. if you watched the entire video, or the trial...you would know his knee was never "on his neck" it was very clearly and squarely on his shoulder blades
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As an recently retired LEO, (34 years) I cannot find away to justify Chauvin's behavior by that I mean the knee on the neck. I was sickened to see that video. The knee on Floyds neck was truly a game changer. Remove that one act from what had transpired and the arrest would have had a different outcome. Just my opinion, as if anyone really cares what I think. if you watched the entire video, or the trial...you would know his knee was never "on his neck" it was very clearly and squarely on his shoulder blades And if you watch the training info segment from The Fall of Minneapolis you will see Chauvin and crew were trained to not leave someone in that position, but instead to roll them in to the recovery position which fellow training recipient Lane brought up.
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Yep, pretty much dead man walking with the amount of drugs in his body. Chauvin was sacrificed by the government to keep the groids from burning down the country (more(...
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…” Yes I did get the COVTARD jab...
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Ok, but looking past the detention/arrest, resisting, in and out of the car, it's not ok to have a suspect detained and not monitor his vital status. Then discover he is not breathing, only call an ambulance and not implement any life saving practices such as CPR, airway management. Big problems with that one factoid! Yes, Floyd was a walking street pharmacy and likely, a dead man walking on barrowed time. It is what it is, no do overs in police work. We do many things that are lawful but still deemed awful.
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Yep, pretty much dead man walking with the amount of drugs in his body. Chauvin was sacrificed by the government to keep the groids from burning down the country (more(... Except he was a long term user, not a first timer. Much like if had been(actually. probably was) an alcoholic who could be more or less functional with a BAC high enough to kill a teenage kid trying to look cool during their first drinking incident.
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How does someone who can't breath say "I can't breath" repeatedly?
I am..........disturbed.
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How does someone who can't breath say "I can't breath" repeatedly? The same way someone having an asthma attack or other breathing issues can get out a few words at a time till they black out. Apparently 4 mini gods going to prison isn't enough to convince their disciples that death from positional asphyxia really can occur.
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What politics caused Chauvin to restrain Floyd face down in opposition to the training he received? A lot of money could be saved on training and gear if le are just going to ignore it and do anything they want.
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No mention in this thread that Chauvin and Floyd had some history between them.
Chauvin and Floyd worked together after hours at a bar or a nightclub, I think Floyd was his superior and may have handed Chauvin his paychecks.
I figure Floyd was boning Chauvins ol lady and he finally got a chance at paybacks.
Lol Chauvin's wife has a good case against you for defamation. Like a serious money judgement that your liability insurance won't pay. I would suspect that with drug addiction and serious heart disease Floyd wasn't up to much more than what he was doing that day.
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How does someone who can't breath say "I can't breath" repeatedly? I can imagine it. If his heart was failing (as it has been alleged), blood could have been accumulating around his lungs, making it difficult for him to get a good breath. Then add the stress he was under. The breakdown of his lung function, caused by heart failure, could have caused his loss of consciousness and subsequent death due to asphyxiation. That said, the sentence was outrageous. Floyd could have chosen to cooperate with his arrest from the start, and no battle with the police (and restraint by them) would have been needed.
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As an recently retired LEO, (34 years) I cannot find away to justify Chauvin's behavior by that I mean the knee on the neck. I was sickened to see that video. The knee on Floyds neck was truly a game changer. Remove that one act from what had transpired and the arrest would have had a different outcome. Just my opinion, as if anyone really cares what I think. if you watched the entire video, or the trial...you would know his knee was never "on his neck" it was very clearly and squarely on his shoulder blades And if you watch the training info segment from The Fall of Minneapolis you will see Chauvin and crew were trained to not leave someone in that position, but instead to roll them in to the recovery position which fellow training recipient Lane brought up. Are you wearing your St. Floyd Halter Top Today Resistance mixed with Drugs is Futile .. The Mounties always get their Man ..
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Positional asphyxiation, excited delirium, and many, bad life decisions= DRT
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No mention in this thread that Chauvin and Floyd had some history between them.
Chauvin and Floyd worked together after hours at a bar or a nightclub, I think Floyd was his superior and may have handed Chauvin his paychecks.
I figure Floyd was boning Chauvins ol lady and he finally got a chance at paybacks.
Lol Chauvin's wife has a good case against you for defamation. Like a serious money judgement that your liability insurance won't pay. I would suspect that with drug addiction and serious heart disease Floyd wasn't up to much more than what he was doing that day. Floyd was in at least 1 porn video. Best I can recall they never had much, if any, interaction working security at the club. Seems like 1 was inside and the other outside.
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As an recently retired LEO, (34 years) I cannot find away to justify Chauvin's behavior by that I mean the knee on the neck. I was sickened to see that video. The knee on Floyds neck was truly a game changer. Remove that one act from what had transpired and the arrest would have had a different outcome. Just my opinion, as if anyone really cares what I think. if you watched the entire video, or the trial...you would know his knee was never "on his neck" it was very clearly and squarely on his shoulder blades And if you watch the training info segment from The Fall of Minneapolis you will see Chauvin and crew were trained to not leave someone in that position, but instead to roll them in to the recovery position which fellow training recipient Lane brought up. Are you wearing your St. Floyd Halter Top Today Resistance mixed with Drugs is Futile .. The Mounties always get their Man .. Why would I wear anything with Floyd on it? I already stated he should have preferably been shot by the victim of the home invasion. So why are you and others wanting cops to be able to commit crimes?
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How does someone who can't breath say "I can't breath" repeatedly? I can imagine it. If his heart was failing (as it has been alleged), blood could have been accumulating around his lungs, making it difficult for him to get a good breath. Then add the stress he was under. The breakdown of his lung function, caused by heart failure, could have caused his loss of consciousness and subsequent death due to asphyxiation. That said, the sentence was outrageous. Floyd could have chosen to cooperate with his arrest from the start, and no battle with the police (and restraint by them) would have been needed. Once he was in cuffs the MRT was supposed to be over due to the risk of causing death. Since they(partially excluding Lane) didn't want to do that and death resulted, they got state charges related to the killing and federal deprivation of rights charges as well.
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