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Based on plenty of past experience with various TSXs and TTSXs from .257 to 9.3mm, haven't been able to tell any difference. I’m in this camp. With a fairly significant sample size.
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I've used the old X bullet then the TTSX in 7Saum and the 90 grain X bullet in my 257 Roberts. The 90 grain pill is no longer in production, but I think I've got enough to last me for awhile.
Everything I've shot with the 140 TTSX in 7SAUM has never taken more than a step. Usually, the drop right there but I've never recovered a single bullet. I killed two Aoudad in west Texas with one shot. Through the shoulders of a ewe and into the head of another at 183 yards. Several west Texas mulies adorn my wall by that bullet. My 257 Roberts loves the 90 grainer and has been responsible for most of my west Texas whitetail kills along with several feral barbado/mouflon cross sheep. Only one whitetail every took more than a step, running about 50 yards before crashing.
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How big of a real world difference is there between the TTSX and the LR-X long range bullet?
Pertaining to expansion. Based on a limited sample size with the LRX, my initial impression is that the LRX expands more aggressively than the TTSX, which expands more aggressively than the TSX. The 127 gr 6.5mm and 145 gr 7mm LRX seem fairly willing to shed petals when they hit bone, even at fairly low impact speed. In terms of penetration, the TTSX and TSX exit so often that I haven't be able to observe a noticeable difference between them, but of the handful of LRX bullets that my hunting buddies and I have shot into deer (ranging from 100 lbs to ~400 lbs) and moose, I have seen a much higher percentage fail to exit compared to the TTSX and TSX. Again, this is a limited sample size and more game shooting may reveal that the first handful of kills contained a few anomalies. If they're more willing to shed petals do they do as much damage to vitals or is sample size too small to make that determination? Based on the small sample size with the LRX (8 critters so far, IIRC), it does more damage than what I typically see with the TTSX and TSX. Just to give a little more context, I've lost track of the exact count now, but I've seen 150-160 BG animals die via Barnes bullets (X, TSX, TTSX, LRX), and only a handful of those were with the LRX. My hunting partners and I have mainly switched our Barnes usage to the LRX, so that sample size will hopefully increase in the near future.
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How big of a real world difference is there between the TTSX and the LR-X long range bullet?
Pertaining to expansion. Based on a limited sample size with the LRX, my initial impression is that the LRX expands more aggressively than the TTSX, which expands more aggressively than the TSX. The 127 gr 6.5mm and 145 gr 7mm LRX seem fairly willing to shed petals when they hit bone, even at fairly low impact speed. In terms of penetration, the TTSX and TSX exit so often that I haven't be able to observe a noticeable difference between them, but of the handful of LRX bullets that my hunting buddies and I have shot into deer (ranging from 100 lbs to ~400 lbs) and moose, I have seen a much higher percentage fail to exit compared to the TTSX and TSX. Again, this is a limited sample size and more game shooting may reveal that the first handful of kills contained a few anomalies. If they're more willing to shed petals do they do as much damage to vitals or is sample size too small to make that determination? Based on the small sample size with the LRX (8 critters so far, IIRC), it does more damage than what I typically see with the TTSX and TSX. Just to give a little more context, I've lost track of the exact count now, but I've seen 150-160 BG animals die via Barnes bullets (X, TSX, TTSX, LRX), and only a handful of those were with the LRX. My hunting partners and I have mainly switched our Barnes usage to the LRX, so that sample size will hopefully increase in the near future. I got it. Was wondering if those few LRX she'd petals upon entry of if it was evident at what point they were shed. It sounds like it must not be upon entry if you're seeing more damage.
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How big of a real world difference is there between the TTSX and the LR-X long range bullet?
Pertaining to expansion. Based on a limited sample size with the LRX, my initial impression is that the LRX expands more aggressively than the TTSX, which expands more aggressively than the TSX. The 127 gr 6.5mm and 145 gr 7mm LRX seem fairly willing to shed petals when they hit bone, even at fairly low impact speed. In terms of penetration, the TTSX and TSX exit so often that I haven't be able to observe a noticeable difference between them, but of the handful of LRX bullets that my hunting buddies and I have shot into deer (ranging from 100 lbs to ~400 lbs) and moose, I have seen a much higher percentage fail to exit compared to the TTSX and TSX. Again, this is a limited sample size and more game shooting may reveal that the first handful of kills contained a few anomalies. If they're more willing to shed petals do they do as much damage to vitals or is sample size too small to make that determination? Based on the small sample size with the LRX (8 critters so far, IIRC), it does more damage than what I typically see with the TTSX and TSX. Just to give a little more context, I've lost track of the exact count now, but I've seen 150-160 BG animals die via Barnes bullets (X, TSX, TTSX, LRX), and only a handful of those were with the LRX. My hunting partners and I have mainly switched our Barnes usage to the LRX, so that sample size will hopefully increase in the near future. I got it. Was wondering if those few LRX she'd petals upon entry of if it was evident at what point they were shed. It sounds like it must not be upon entry if you're seeing more damage. No, not on entry. I've seen petals from the TTSX just under the entry-side hide when impact speed was very high, but in the case of the LRX most of the impacts so far have been at more moderate speeds, 2700 fps or less. In one particular case, a 127 gr 6.5mm LRX impacted a quartering away MD buck at 280 meters. The bullet entered the last rib and impacted the offside humerus, where it came to a stop. I found the bullet against the bone with a loose petal beside it.
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I've yet to recover a 180 grain TSX or TTSX from my 300 Win Mag after 8 or 9 animals from whitetail to aoudad and kudu from 50 to 250 yards.
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Typical TTSX and LRX performance: Get out the skinning knife and meat bags.
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Have found petals from near the entrance hole to around the exit hole--and one in the heart of a deer.....
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Been shooting the 120 grain ttsx in 260 rem and 6.5 rem mag, both delivered destruction to big northen whitetails and hogs, switched to 127 lrx cause I got a deal on a bunch, i think the destruction on contact is more than the ttsx, anything but flesh on the way in and you have a real mess in the internals, even delivers thru the plate on the side of a big hog. Yet to own a rifle that won't shoot them well too, which is nice.
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I quit using them after the second time one cratered on a bull’s shoulder. No penetration, just a surface wound. My brother had to finish both of them with Accubonds.
Never again.
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I quit using them after the second time one cratered on a bull’s shoulder. No penetration, just a surface wound. My brother had to finish both of them with Accubonds.
Never again.
P Not disputing your post, but I have never seen such results from various mule deer and elk kills. Hard for me to imagine Accubonds performing better. Just me.
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I quit using them after the second time one cratered on a bull’s shoulder. No penetration, just a surface wound. My brother had to finish both of them with Accubonds.
Never again.
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Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
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Now THAT was cruel! Haha.... you got me, Pharm.
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NO WAY- it was over with back east or out in the Atlantic ocean
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Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
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My experience with TTSX:
1. Bang flop
2. Go to 1 - repeat, repeat, repeat and so forth
I prefer classic.
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Wow……ya had me! memtb
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I have a friend who owns a 20,000 acre ranch in NM who sells Elk tags and has hosted big names in the hunting and shooting industry
He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet
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