I'll take a Boeing over an Airbus all day long....
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
I didn’t know, so I had to google. Just the aircraft that fall under the 737 model, 529 aircraft accidents resulting in 5,779 deaths. I don’t know how this compares to other aircraft.
"I was born in the log cabin I helped my grandfather build"
Bob, the only viable tool is to measure the actual mishap rate and it's pretty darned low. As a flier, Boeing has the right approach when it comes to pilot responsibility and cockpit management.
For example (just one), An Airbus' flight control will simply not allow a pilot to exceed (I believe) 30 degrees AOB, for they believe a commercial airliner should not EVER bank that aggressively, given G available, etc. Boeing on the other hand has no limitations in that regard, because ANY pilot worth s crap should be able INSTANTLY make the call as to whether his flight parameters will allow him to exceed that if it means ssay, avoiding a collision, etc. No question they have significant management issues as do ALL major companies and why? because DEI is driving the train, that is when I fly and I see either a female or a "minority" of any flavor on the flight deck, I'm all the more nervous if I'm not doing the flying..
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
Bob, the only viable tool is to measure the actual mishap rate and it's pretty darned low. As a flier, Boeing has the right approach when it comes to pilot responsibility and cockpit management.
For example (just one), An Airbus' flight control will simply not allow a pilot to exceed (I believe) 30 degrees AOB, for they believe a commercial airliner should not EVER bank that aggressively, given G available, etc. Boeing on the other hand has no limitations in that regard, because ANY pilot worth s crap should be able INSTANTLY make the call as to whether his flight parameters will allow him to exceed that if it means ssay, avoiding a collision, etc. No question they have significant management issues as do ALL major companies and why? because DEI is driving the train, that is when I fly and I see either a female or a "minority" of any flavor on the flight deck, I'm all the more nervous if I'm not doing the flying..
jorge,
Thanks for the reply and info. You certainly know more about actually flying an aircraft than I do. (I'm not a pilot.) And especially about the differences in the control interface between the pilots and the aircraft.
My primary concern is about the quality control and the manufacturing process. Boeing has some major problems regrading this, IMHO. Heck, even the USAF has been having problems with their new KC-46 tankers (based on the Boeing 767 freighter).
I'm not concerned about female pilots just because they are female. I am concerned about under-qualified people potentially being in the cockpit due to the push for DEI.
When flyng out of our airports, Pensacola, FT Walton, I must go to a larger hub airport to make non stop trans continental flights. Going to South America, I have seen some weird stuff in Texas, never forget landing only to find 1,000 flights cancelled, that was at Dallas and that was cute. Had the first crew get on board, sat there at the gate, that crew while sitting ran out of flight time, having never took off, and had to all be replaced. We sat at the gate in the plane, in our seats, for four full hours, every connecting flight was missed. Total SNAFU. On one flight got redirected in a violent thunder storm, to New Orleans, we landed sideways, damned good pilot, told her on my way out past the cockpit, Mam I don't land in a plane all that often but that was one great landing you made, I got my bags, rented a car and drove the rest of the way home to FL. At some point common sense must take over, If I do not have a chute, I get out at the next stop. No qualms about un-adzing a transport if things get hinkey.
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“To expect defeat is nine-tenths of defeat itself. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It is best to plan for all eventualities then believe in success, and only cross the failure bridge if you come to it." Francis Marion - The Swamp Fox
I am finished flying. It’s become a fairly miserable experience. Last time this past January with a 7 am flight out of Minneapolis. Utter chaos with an Delta/airport employee chiding hundreds of people at baggage and check-in for being in the wrong lines. Yelling at people at 6am in the morning!
Boeing 757-300, full-up; aptly termed the “the Flying Pencil.”
Regarding the Ethiopian Airlines 737 Max crash (2019?). I spoke with a pilot who said the crew of the 737 Max concentrated on fixing the anomaly code, scanning the manuals, rather than flying the plane. In his opinion, the pilots flew the plane into the ground. There was obviously a programming error with the plane, but there must have been a pilot training deficiency, they were more concerned with getting rid of the error code, rather than flying the plane.
I'm getting tired of single aisle planes, especially now that they have classes. On a Westjet 737, they pull the curtain behind the privileged 12 passengers at the front. The front lavatory is now off limits. The rear two lavatories are shared between the remaing 160 passengers. As someone who has developed bladder problems, I hate that.
However, with jets like the 737 capable of flying further, and with current airline economics, we are going to be flying more on single aisle jets than ever before. Not passenger friendly on a 5-7 hour flight.
Bob, the only viable tool is to measure the actual mishap rate and it's pretty darned low. As a flier, Boeing has the right approach when it comes to pilot responsibility and cockpit management.
For example (just one), An Airbus' flight control will simply not allow a pilot to exceed (I believe) 30 degrees AOB, for they believe a commercial airliner should not EVER bank that aggressively, given G available, etc. Boeing on the other hand has no limitations in that regard, because ANY pilot worth s crap should be able INSTANTLY make the call as to whether his flight parameters will allow him to exceed that if it means ssay, avoiding a collision, etc. No question they have significant management issues as do ALL major companies and why? because DEI is driving the train, that is when I fly and I see either a female or a "minority" of any flavor on the flight deck, I'm all the more nervous if I'm not doing the flying..
jorge,
Thanks for the reply and info. You certainly know more about actually flying an aircraft than I do. (I'm not a pilot.) And especially about the differences in the control interface between the pilots and the aircraft.
My primary concern is about the quality control and the manufacturing process. Boeing has some major problems regrading this, IMHO. Heck, even the USAF has been having problems with their new KC-46 tankers (based on the Boeing 767 freighter).
I'm not concerned about female pilots just because they are female. I am concerned about under-qualified people potentially being in the cockpit due to the push for DEI.
All valid points, except I'll disagree on females in the cockpit, but that's my issue . Regardless, the mishap rate per 100,000 hours is the gold standard. Witness the V-22 Osprey fiasco, that one will open your eyes.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
I quit flying period about 15 years ago when I got back from Africa the second time. I thought!! They flew me to Billings in the end of Nov. because I was in to bad of shape to save locally so I guess never say never. Was over there Mon. and yesterday getting a pacemaker an defib implanted, but we drove there. Got home last night and found a Kimber MT in 25-06 on G. I. this AM and bought it.
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