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Psalms 137:9 "Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks."

Lets don't change the subject.

No evidence for that at all outside a story written in a book.

But where they really persecuted, and if so, how much?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Persecution

The Myth of Persecution: How Early Christians Invented a Story of Martyrdom is a 2013 book by Candida Moss, a professor of New Testament and Early Christianity at the University of Notre Dame. In her book, Moss advances a thesis that:

The traditional idea of the "Age of Martyrdom", when Christians suffered persecution from the Roman authorities and lived in fear of being thrown to the lions, is largely fictional.[1] Here she follows the work of G. E. M. de Ste. Croix.

There was never sustained, targeted persecution of Christians by Imperial Roman authorities. Official persecution of Christians by order of the Roman Emperor lasted for at most twelve years of the first three hundred of the Church's history.[2][3] Moss writes: "This does not mean, however, that there were no martyrs at all or that Christians never died. It is clear that some people were cruelly tortured and brutally executed for reasons that strike us as profoundly unjust."[4]

Most of the stories of individual martyrs amassed by the early modern period are pure inventions. She agrees with Bollandist scholar Hippolyte Delehaye that most martyrdom literature developed in the fourth century and beyond.[5]

Even the oldest and most historically accurate stories of martyrs and their sufferings have been altered and re-written by later editors, so that it is impossible to know for sure what any of the martyrs actually thought, did or said.[3][6]

Well the fact that Christians spent a long time strapping people to a pole and setting them on fire for not being a Christian probably helped boost the numbers of people who converted. LOL! Most of the other religions didn't engage in such aggressive recruitment practices.

Actually there're 27 different canonical historical books. By at least 9 different authors. And many thousands of non-canonical historical works. By many thousands of different authors. Some are still being written today. And there’s history itself, which is significant.

So you’re amused when you stupidly create a straw man and then think you’re smart by refuting something I didn’t say?

Those people who did such things hundreds of years ago weren’t practicing Christianity. Despite the anti-Christian behavior of those who did such things, the teachings of Christianity clearly continued to attract people. And grow into the world’s dominant religion today.

Who are you to say they were not "real Christians"?

Maybe you just don't understand "Their Jesus".

They thought they were Christians. Heck, they were willing to murder people for their faith. Isn't that proof that they believed?

All are written in the context of a tradition and a faith, some being directly copied from earlier works, as seen in the overlap between gospels. Nothing was written in isolation.

You can retroactively try to disown them if you want but the people doing most of that stuff were acting with the authority of the church of that day. And how you feel towards them personally changes nothing about the effect their actions had. That effect being that many people converted to avoid persecution, torture and death. And that many pagan religions were essentially wiped out.

Hell, Christians can't even get along with other Christians. The pilgrims that came to America looking for religious freedom weren't fleeing from persecution by pagans, heretics, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus or non believers. They were fleeing from "Other Christians".

The myth of down trodden Christians always being persecuted is mostly BS. The Roman emperor Constantine converted the Roman empire to Christianity in 337 CE. After that point Christians had a much more distinguished rampage against other religions and non believers than anything that was ever actually done to them.

So what then was your point?

The church of that day that was encouraging such behavior wasn’t practicing Christianity. Despite the anti-Christian behavior of the church of that day that was encouraging people to do such things, the teachings of Christianity clearly continued to attract people. And grow into the world’s dominant religion today.

Human beings, wherever they’re involved, there’s always disagreement. It’s not God’s issue, it’s our issue. People disagree about almost everything. Why would you expect people in a church, or group of churches, to all agree on everything…?

But during the first 300 or so years of Christianity, against overwhelming odds, Christianity…which began as a very tiny band of Jesus’ original followers…not only survived, but thrived. It survived, and outlasted the powerful Jewish Temple that was intent on stamping it out. And it survived, and outlasted the mighty Roman Empire that had conquered a great deal of the known world at that time, that most definitely persecuted Christians.

These persecutions culminated with the reign of Diocletian and Galerius at the end of the third century and the beginning of the 4th century. Against all odds, this tiny band of Jesus’ original followers grew to 10,000 Christians in the year 100, then grew to about 200,000 Christians by the year 200, and then grew to almost 2 million Christians by the year 250.

Had Constantine not made Christianity a state religion, it would probably remained a marginal faith. You can thank both Paul the promotor and Constantine, with the Church giving you the bible and helping to elevate the faith into a worldwide religion.

After the Romans converted their army with threat of execution then along came Charlemagne who executed thousands of German noblemen for not being proper Christians. They were sneaking around and still practicing their paganism. Very Christ like of old Charley.

From the Sopranos:

What's he saying?

There were dinosaurs

Back with Adam and Eve?
- I guess.

- no way.

t-rex in the garden of eden?

Adam and Eve would be running all the time, scared [bleep].
But the bible says it was paradise.

Dear Lord A'mighty,

If it's Your Will would You could You save some of these jokers from themselves. They are complete morons. Drooling, window licking, babbling, blithering idiots in desperate need of Your help.

Amen

Sorry fellers, sometimes the answer to a prayer is just "no".........

Were any of them Christ like?

The origins of the phrase "kill them all, God will know his own", is not from Christians killing Muslims. It's from the Massacre of Beziers, a slaughter of Albigensian Christians during the Albigensian Crusade.

It's interesting how Antler's dismisses this element in the growth of Christianity.

By his reasoning, what ever religion can bully, scare, intimidate, torture and murder their way to world dominance is the one true religion.

Not real likely. But the "Christian" church after it left Jerusalem and western Asia became anything but Christ like if we are to accept Jesus' words.

The Christian church became an enforcement arm of the state and ruled by terror. When the Protestants broke away they kept that weapon in their arsenal.

Old Constantine was crafty. He offered the Bishops amnesty and position if they would just keep the populace under control by whatever means necessary.

Most all Christian churches today are lineal descendants of that state terror organization formed in Rome.