Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire How would you improve our educational system K-12

Agree 100%.

As far as homeschooling, both parents working would be a challenge for that.

Being special needs such as yourself does not entitle you to "manage".

I've worked in the best of schools and the worst of schools for over 20 years. I've seen it all. Have had full water bottles thrown at me in the sped schools. Had a highschool (what was the term Don Imus used?) verbally go off on me one day. It was explained to me that she was there simple because they had no other choice. She was pregnant, but the baby daddy already knocked up another girl and that girl was at the teen pregnancy center school...and it is not allowed for two girls knocked up by the same guy to go to the same school...she she had to go back into a regular classroom simply so the school could babysit her for the school day and let her torment the halls and classrooms each and every day. I can go on and on. I've seen full on racist administrators to some of the nicest ones you could ever meet. I've been in schools where kindergartners find the teachers coke baggie on the ground by her desk. Been in schools where 4th graders get caught screwing. Crazy stuff.

I honestly think all education should be a private affair. Get rid of virtually all government involvement in education.

The National Felon League and NBA have a new violent thug in the headlines every single day. Not DUIs either, beatings, murders, rapes. Hard to say what effect school sports had on these clowns.
Most kids are in PE classes because it's mandatory...a few kids "make the team"...and all the money and resources are spent on the few that "make the team". Gyms, tracks, fields, equipment, swimming pools, buses etc....all that money spent for the few that "made the team"...IMO it's a grossly unjust allocation of funds that could better be utilized in education for the whole student body rather than the few who are athletically gifted.

Yeah, naw.

Sports should be private...not in schools.

We will have to agree to disagree on that one. Sports can be the only thing positive in a lot of these kids lives. Not every gets the love and support at home that a lot of us were fortunate to have.

Teach personal finance. Learn about saving, budgeting, investing and taxes.

In regards to special ed tudents and gang bangers, in my opinion boils down to can't and won't. I'm willing to spend resources for those who can't. I am not willing to spend a dime to support those who won't. If a teen or their parents chooses not to get an education, so be it.

Cut them off of financial aid too. If any child wants an education I will support that. Should be a stigma for those who quit school to cause trouble. Also, have an option for those who want to come back and learn...on their dime...on their time.

Every time a good teacher...who holds his or her students accountable...flunks the star quarterback.....they would be fired.

Tenure protects good, high standard teachers from the parents.

You wouldn't need tenure if the administration would support its good teachers.

That would mean telling an irate parent to fugg off once in a while.

Are you a high-school coach?

Education should never take a back seat to sports, no matter how crappy some kids home life is.

The Teachers Union controls the narrative. Nothing any of us can do about it.

If you have children, Home School unless you want an indoctrinated imbecile for a child.

Obviously what happened to you.

nope, and I agree, classroom first and foremost, but sports gets and keeps alot of these kids in the desk seats which is the first battle.

The tenure laws were originally passed so young, attractive teachers wouldn't have to be the principal's private harem to keep their jobs. Now they're being abused to protect incompetent fools who would starve to death in the real world of continued employment being based on personal performance.

I suppose you have a different perspective being in Georgia.

We do not deal with as many dropouts as you do probably.

The Reservations around me struggle more in that regard.

For HS teachers I'd like to see a shift in the degree program. Consider a prospective physics teacher. In many places they'll have an M.Ed. degree with a couple of science/physics for teachers courses in their curriculum. Instead of that, require an MS in Physics degree with a couple of education and classroom management courses as the add on.

Mutatis mutandis for math, chemistry, biology and so on.

They don't require classroom management in our state.


If you raise the requirements are you going to raise wages?

we've come full circle. Do away with the DOE, but schooling back in the hands of the states and let the states compete for the top spot. My home state could use roughly 25K construction workers right now. We should be educating for that.

Repeal the 19th Amendment for starters.