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Originally Posted by Calvin
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FAFO Iran started this schit
Nonsense, America Started this schit and you can bet your ass that our CIA and State Department both have boots on the ground in both Iran and Israel making sure it escalates.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
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FAFO Iran started this schit
Nonsense, America Started this schit and you can bet your ass that our CIA and State Department both have boots on the ground in both Iran and Israel making sure it escalates.
Ur Nigkra pres Obama refused the green light yrs ago this schit woulda been done

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This drone attack is a trick. The drones are slow and have very small warheads. Israel's dilemma is whether to expend missiles to down them, only to have Iran then launch much higher and larger cruise missiles before Israel can reload - or - let the drones come in and face condemnation if anybody gets killed by them.

If I were advising, I'd say to expend as few anti-air assets as possible on the drones, prioritizing those heading to more civilian targets. Then stand by for the main attack.

Edit to update: news report says more than 100 drones have already been shot down, before reaching Israel. BY US AND UK FORCES.


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Originally Posted by AKwolverine
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We doomed?

The sky has been falling continuously since I joined this site.

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Originally Posted by Direct_Drive
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Yes israel has nukes. Iran in a normal war will destroy israel.
After the first week of this war, Iran will have no airforce or navy. Israel has a fully developed target list to neuter Iran.
The second week will be hunting and killing any military targets that are left while Iran scrambles to hide under ground.
Once the blast doors are located, Israel hits those with bunker busters and entombs anything left inside.

Agree, that there is no upside to a major war between Israel and Iran.


I think so too. Israel will slaughter Iran.. Many here say things like Nuke Iran.. The truth is There are millions of Iranians that remember very well what Iran was 50 yrs . ago. They wore blue jeans, women wore dresses and they were very prosperous .It is mostly their government that are evil dictators. America is not nearly as bad , but our government is also out of control. If anyone bombs Iran, China might get involved. I am not sure they will bother with Taiwan at that time. They need Iran's oil more than Taiwan. Some here acting like they know it all. One thing I know is no one really knows.


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Thanks a lot, democrats. mad

No doubt Barry. Fuqk Lying Hiden Biden and his DemoRat Commie Socialist Handlers. 😡


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Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by earlybrd
FAFO Iran started this schit
Nonsense, America Started this schit and you can bet your ass that our CIA and State Department both have boots on the ground in both Iran and Israel making sure it escalates.


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And stevies not wrong

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Originally Posted by earlybrd
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by earlybrd
FAFO Iran started this schit
Nonsense, America Started this schit and you can bet your ass that our CIA and State Department both have boots on the ground in both Iran and Israel making sure it escalates.
Ur Nigkra pres Obama refused the green light yrs ago this schit woulda been done

Don’t worry, Minnysoda Stevie will send his Muzzy Somali “Rep” over there on a “peace seeking” mission. 😂


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Originally Posted by rainshot
This is not good. It's not just Iran that is PO'd. All the Arab nations are on edge. Erdogan is holding off for now but huge crowds of people want war. This is a FAFO moment for Israel. They might be able to hold off Iran but they can't hold off the entire Arab world. I am only interested about what consequences it has on America and with these idiots in charge it will be catastrophic. I'm talking about our government collectively. An all out war would be something that the Pentagon would be all in for. They could have plausible deniability for going in to fight Russia. BIG MISTAKE. With the election coming up it would be a perfect opportunity to steal it and claim that people want Biden to stay because he's in the loop. hell e is the loop. none of this would've happened if Trump had been allowed to take office. he Won it after all. Bring all the players in that would be involved and it will make WWI and II look like the Jan. 6 rally. The EU and NATO have depleted their arms. Our arsenals are depleted. The EU's citizens aren't wanting war. WE don't want war. Our government does want war. It plays into their plan. I don't care who you boys and girls like and hate. You'd better think twice before chirping about total war.
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Originally Posted by Swifty52
I forsee domestic terrorism in our future, by September we will have martial law and 100% mail in voting, Biden wins in a landslide.
I think it will go beyond increased Mail-in ballots, but turn into voting from home on your computer.

I mean, what could go wrong


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Originally Posted by ihookem
Originally Posted by Direct_Drive
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Yes israel has nukes. Iran in a normal war will destroy israel.
After the first week of this war, Iran will have no airforce or navy. Israel has a fully developed target list to neuter Iran.
The second week will be hunting and killing any military targets that are left while Iran scrambles to hide under ground.
Once the blast doors are located, Israel hits those with bunker busters and entombs anything left inside.

Agree, that there is no upside to a major war between Israel and Iran.


I think so too. Israel will slaughter Iran.. Many here say things like Nuke Iran.. The truth is There are millions of Iranians that remember very well what Iran was 50 yrs . ago. They wore blue jeans, women wore dresses and they were very prosperous .It is mostly their government that are evil dictators. America is not nearly as bad , but our government is also out of control. If anyone bombs Iran, China might get involved. I am not sure they will bother with Taiwan at that time. They need Iran's oil more than Taiwan. Some here acting like they know it all. One thing I know is no one really knows.
According to some on here, everyone in iran should die. War mongering blood thirsty fools who will answer to that one day

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Yep, the idiot in chief told them "don't". I guess they did.. Let's see what the puzzy from the clown show administration does now..



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Originally Posted by Swamplord
the hook nosed pedophile human garbage that set up WWl & WWll is 100% responsible for setting up WWlll


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Originally Posted by gunchamp
Originally Posted by ihookem
Originally Posted by Direct_Drive
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Yes israel has nukes. Iran in a normal war will destroy israel.
After the first week of this war, Iran will have no airforce or navy. Israel has a fully developed target list to neuter Iran.
The second week will be hunting and killing any military targets that are left while Iran scrambles to hide under ground.
Once the blast doors are located, Israel hits those with bunker busters and entombs anything left inside.

Agree, that there is no upside to a major war between Israel and Iran.


I think so too. Israel will slaughter Iran.. Many here say things like Nuke Iran.. The truth is There are millions of Iranians that remember very well what Iran was 50 yrs . ago. They wore blue jeans, women wore dresses and they were very prosperous .It is mostly their government that are evil dictators. America is not nearly as bad , but our government is also out of control. If anyone bombs Iran, China might get involved. I am not sure they will bother with Taiwan at that time. They need Iran's oil more than Taiwan. Some here acting like they know it all. One thing I know is no one really knows.
According to some on here, everyone in iran should die. War mongering blood thirsty fools who will answer to that one day

Yeah,

"Make Iran a parking lot" etc. We had an opportunity to help the folks in Iran that wanted it different if we wanted to under Obongo, and didn't.

Fûck em both I guess. I'll shed no tears on behalf of either country. But can still recognize the cost to the innocents regardless how it plays out.

I'm more, maybe only, concerned at this point about the foreign assets in the US now.


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https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/all-for-one-and-one-for-all

Russia, China, and Iran have now formed a de facto military and economic alliance — what they prefer to call a “partnership”.

In the case of Russia and China, a comprehensive full-spectrum partnership has emerged: military, economic, and monetary.

Trade between Russia and China has exploded both quantitatively and qualitatively.

Importantly, trade settlement is overwhelmingly denominated in rubles and renminbi. Use of the dollar and its international mechanisms is being aggressively deprecated.

Russia and China now conduct regular joint naval and air patrols of the western Pacific, from Alaska to the South China Sea.

Russia, China, and Iran conduct regular joint exercises in the Arabian Sea. Those exercises have increased in both scope and frequency in recent years.

Both Russia and China are investing vast sums of capital in Iran, much of it in the energy sector and in ambitious transportation projects aiming to construct fast and efficient trade corridors linking China, Iran, and Russia as primary nodes of Eurasian commerce.

Arms and technology transfers between the three countries have reached unprecedented levels.

Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov just concluded several days of talks with Chinese leaders, including both Wang Yi and Xi Jinping. In its report of the talks, the Chinese government’s flagship media organ, Global Times, summarized (in the words of prominent CPC commentator Li Haidong) the current state of the Russia/China relationship:

"China and Russia will not target any third party, but if hegemonic forces threaten China and Russia, or threaten world peace, China and Russia will stand together and fight to protect their own interests and safeguard world peace together.”

It is increasingly evident that Russia, China, and Iran recognize that an attack against any one of them would constitute an existential threat to them all. The strategic interests of all three countries are now inextricably intertwined.

Most importantly, they are united in a single overriding strategic objective: to dismantle the dominion of the long-reigning Anglo-American empire.

Naturally, the rapidly waning global hegemon is not inclined to relinquish its throne without a fight. What form that fight takes remains to be seen. But if the empire attempts to preserve its so-called “rules-based international order” via force of arms, it is essential to understand this incontrovertible reality:

In order for the United States to make war against any ONE of Russia, China, or Iran, it would be necessary to effectively vacate every major US base on the planet in order to concentrate enough military power to undertake the mission.
In a putative war between the United States and Iran, both Russia and China would actively support Iran. I'm not suggesting Russian or Chinese forces would fight alongside Iranians — although that could happen. But it would likely not be necessary. Iran would simply be supplemented with arms and other logistical necessities from both its partners — and quite possibly taken under their nuclear umbrella in an explicit act of deterrence.

Additionally, in consequence of the US weakening its force posture in Europe and the western Pacific in a bid to militarily subdue Iran, Russia and China would be enabled to apply immense pressure to western logistics, trade, and political influence in those regions. This is not to suggest that China would invade Taiwan or Russia would invade the Baltics or Poland. They would need only to exert their dominant influence in what were previously considered to be unassailable American imperial domains in east Asia and Europe.

The empire is stretched so thin and its potential for power projection is so diluted that undertaking even one Big War would be enough to bring the entire house of cards tumbling down.
This is the harsh reality the Masters of Empire are now facing, and no amount of mythologizing about the "limitless" power at their disposal can change it.
There is a vast difference between imagined power and the actual ability to project and sustain power against the adversaries the United States military must now face and defeat in order to prevent or even meaningfully delay the end of American global hegemony.
And, to the extent Russia, China, and Iran are determined to act all for one and one for all, they represent a combination of global military and economic power that cannot be defeated.


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