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Originally Posted by Moto_Vita
I haven't seen anyone here mention that current "Architectural" asphalt shingles are superior to the old 3 tab thats probably being replaced, better looking too.
Goes without saying nowadays

3 tabs are garbage. Most only have a rating of about 39mph.

Most dimensional arch/dragon tooth oakridge2 from O/C, Elks from gaf, heritage from Tamko are much heavier and will rate up into the 60mph range.

I have Certainteed Shangles lifetime on mine, rated for 110, a coastal rating. But they are not cheap.
I do have metal on all of my decks and sunroom.


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Old shingles are a great way to line a runoff ditch.


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Originally Posted by MartinStrummer
Heck no! Insurance companies allow 2 or 3 layers.
If you go from composition shingles to metal, your home insurance company will reduce your payments!
A metal roof is cheaper than shingles.
Metal will last 50 years or more and is literally maintenance free!

The one downside to a metal roof is you'll have to sign a cosmetic rider. If a hail storm hits your metal roof and dents the heck out of it, the insurance company won't replace it unless the hail actually breaks the metal.

Metal roofs can also sweat on the bottom . If you have metal put on , strip the roof ,put a vapore barrier down and run i" X 2" runners to fasten the steel to . Some metal roofs might last 50 years ,but not the cheap ones.


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Originally Posted by slumlord
Oh boy galvanized colored metal

Bet that looks delicious


maybe on a barn

Not a problem, you'll never have to look at it. 😉

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EB, I'd probably be all over a metal roof and will definitely look into it..

My reluctance lies in the fact I'm 70 years old, a comp roof will probably outlast me..

Makes no sense!?

1. Metal roof is cheaper than composite shingles
2. Home owners insurance savings

Whether you outlast a metal roof or not, it's still money in your pocket.

Metal was not cheaper for me last year. Not even close.

Reroofed our home in 2015? Ten years ago?
Our roof has no hips or valley's.
If we had used colored metal, it would have cost $2K more. We went with galvanized and saved.
The roofer we used dealt in metal roofs only.
AND........ we shaved several bucks off our homeowners policy premiums, too!
Might hav ta paint that schit 1 day

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Originally Posted by MartinStrummer
Originally Posted by slumlord
Oh boy galvanized colored metal

Bet that looks delicious


maybe on a barn

Not a problem, you'll never have to look at it. 😉
I hope you at least got Galvalume

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Originally Posted by slumlord
Oh boy galvanized colored metal

Bet that looks delicious


maybe on a barn

Not a problem, you'll never have to look at it. 😉
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EB, I'd probably be all over a metal roof and will definitely look into it..

My reluctance lies in the fact I'm 70 years old, a comp roof will probably outlast me..

Makes no sense!?

1. Metal roof is cheaper than composite shingles
2. Home owners insurance savings

Whether you outlast a metal roof or not, it's still money in your pocket.

Metal was not cheaper for me last year. Not even close.


Metal roofs can last 40-70 years, depending on the material. Traditional asphalt roofing materials have an estimated life expectancy of roughly 12-20 years.

So, a metal roof lasts 3× longer than shingles.
You'll pay for 2 to 3 more shingle roofs before a metal roof goes bad.
A metal roof can add as much a 6% to the value of your home.
A hail storm that won't faze a metal roof will ruin a composite roof.
We didn't use the "standing seam" metal. Three rib standard metal roofing from Metal Mart in Wichita Falls, TX.
Used it on the outside of the house too. No painting a house for me! 😉

Interesting as the metal roof estimates came back at 2.5-3x the cost for shingles. No savings for me. The old roof on here was 35 years old. The old shingle roof on our hunting camp was well over 50 (was torn off a house and we "reused" them another 35 years). Shingles last longer than most give credit for.

Hail storms aren't a major issue here, we get some good wind but even that - in the grand scheme, isn't much.

I live in "Tornado Alley". We are under a tornado watch right now.
We get hail quite often. 50+ mph winds aren't uncommon.
Seventy mph winds and a blizzard left us with 6 foot drifts and ripped off shingles. Roofer couldn't get to us. I'm out there in gale force winds, scrounging ripped off shingles to patch as best possible!
Tin was a blessing for us!

Yes, they have 35 year shingles. They still won't last as long as a metal roof.
In today's economy and inflation, what is that 35 year shingle gonna cost in 35 years?

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Mine are lifetime/50 year (Carriage House)

435 lbs per square

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Martin, Strummer

Here is some ribbed galvalume we upgraded one of our bldgs with.

It had to match the old 5V galv

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Full tear off. Around here i go twice the recommended height of ice and water especially with lower pitched roofs. I've used malarkey on my last 4 roofs. Used to use Certainteed they worked too.

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if you have a smaller house and use the screw down metal you can get close to shingles but no way will you get standing seem close it seems to be three times the price of shingles around here

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I generally prefer the Synthetic underlayment finding it stays down better in the wind during install.
Naturally it installs horizontal like roofing and thought that was simple to understand. I showed a guy who asked about it, showed him the roll and button fasteners. Few months later he stops to tell me he figured a faster way, vertically from gutter to gutter over the ridge. Still laughing.

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Originally Posted by tripod3
I generally prefer the Synthetic underlayment finding it stays down better in the wind during install.
Naturally it installs horizontal like roofing and thought that was simple to understand. I showed a guy who asked about it, showed him the roll and button fasteners. Few months later he stops to tell me he figured a faster way, vertically from gutter to gutter over the ridge. Still laughing.

That's hilarious.


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Originally Posted by MartinStrummer
Yes, they have 35 year shingles. They still won't last as long as a metal roof.
In today's economy and inflation, what is that 35 year shingle gonna cost in 35 years?

I'll be dead- why would I GAF?

The country won't last 35 years, I don't care about the shingles.


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The reason you see so many asphalt shingle roofs is the cost . Cheaper than everything else.


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Originally Posted by Teal
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Yes, they have 35 year shingles. They still won't last as long as a metal roof.
In today's economy and inflation, what is that 35 year shingle gonna cost in 35 years?

I'll be dead- why would I GAF?

The country won't last 35 years, I don't care about the shingles.

If I last another 35 years, I'll be 108 years old.
Possible, but not probable!
I'm not concerned about the lifespan of the metal or my imminent demise. I'm concerned about the durability and efficiency of a metal roof while I AM here!
Our metal roof will outlast both my wife and me.....but in the meantime, we have left a legacy to our children who won't have to deal with a leaky roof for another 40 to 50 years.
If a tornado should destroy the house in the meantime, a metal roof is a moot point!
"IF" that should happen while we (the wife and me) are still around, I'm sure we will replace it with another metal roof!

My wife and me literally built our home with our own blood, sweat, tears and hands.
Termites may chew it down, but our home won't suffer catastrophic failure due to unseen roof leaks!

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"... The country won't last 35 years, I don't care about the shingles. ..."

So the structure you spent thousands and thousands of dollars on has no value to your heirs? ....or you just don't GAF about your children and grandchildren?

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P.S. I'll be 74 this year. I sprout pecans and plant pecan trees every year. Somebody, at some point, should have a pecan crop deluxe. If not me, maybe my kids!
At least I've left something of value behind!

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