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Originally Posted by sherm_61
Like I posted earlier i would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Theres one thing I also learned you need every advantage you can get that includes good equipment, the right equipment, good shooting guns (.5 moa) minimum at the furthest distance you intend on shooting
There are disadvantages to higher magnification ranges such as compromised ER, FOV, eye box, scope length, scope weight, etc. It’s a trade-off, and achieving the right balance of scope characteristics is individual.

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Originally Posted by sherm_61
You never answered my question how do you know how well your gun shoots doing load development if you can't even hold center or close to a 5" in circle on a paper target? You have easily induced 3-4" of error in your groups
First, I did answer. Second, I can certainly resolve a 5” circle on paper at 1000 yards using a 10x scope with good glass. I don’t do load development at 1000, but I do shoot groups at that range.

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
[quote=sherm_61]Like I posted earlier i would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Theres one thing I also learned you need every advantage you can get that includes good equipment, the right equipment, good shooting guns (.5 moa) minimum at the furthest distance you intend on shooting
There are disadvantages to higher magnification ranges such as compromised ER, FOV, eye box, scope length, scope weight, etc. It’s a trade-off, and achieving the right balance of scope characteristics is individual.[/
You keep going to the disadvantages of higher magnification as a disadvantage well doesn't a variable negate all that? I know one thing for certain theres alot more advantages to having something like atleast a 24x variable than disadvantages

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I guess I challenge anybody who thinks a 10x scope is all you need put up s 5" bull on a 1,000 target ant see how man times you can hit it or exactly how your shooting.
After all 5" is .5 moa at 1,000 or 2.5" at 500.

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Just be honest and prove it to yourself you have true .5 moa equipment to whatever yardage you wanna shoot with a 10x scope.
My money says there will be some eye opening about the .5 moa rifles people claim with 10x

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Originally Posted by sherm_61
You keep going to the disadvantages of higher magnification as a disadvantage well doesn't a variable negate all that?
No, it doesn’t.

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I know one thing for certain theres alot more advantages to having something like atleast a 24x variable than disadvantages
Maybe for you and your preference, but that balance of tradeoffs is different for different people. Individual visual acuity even enters the equation.

I compete in PRS patches and my preferred default magnification is 15x. My comp scopes go up to 25x and 32x, but I would never put those scopes on my LR hunting rifles. The LR hunting rigs get 3-9x and 3-12x scopes with well-designed reticles. The reticle design makes a huge difference.

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You're putting words into peoples' mouths.

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Originally Posted by sherm_61
Just be honest and prove it to yourself you have true .5 moa equipment to whatever yardage you wanna shoot with a 10x scope.
My money says there will be some eye opening about the .5 moa rifles people claim with 10x
If it’s 0.5 MOA precision that you’re worried about, then distance is irrelevant. I have shot plenty of sub-0.5 MOA groups with 10x or less.

Again, if you can resolve your POA and your reticle allows a consistent hold relative to the POA, then you’re golden regardless of magnification.

What higher magnification allows you to do is resolve a smaller POA.

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So your telling me you can shoot 5" round bulls at 1 000 with a 10x scope

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Originally Posted by sherm_61
So your telling me you can shoot 5" round bulls at 1 000 with a 10x scope


Again, you're putting words in the mouths of others.

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Originally Posted by sherm_61
I guess I challenge anybody who thinks a 10x scope is all you need put up s 5" bull on a 1,000 target ant see how man times you can hit it or exactly how your shooting.
After all 5" is .5 moa at 1,000 or 2.5" at 500.

Aren’t we talking about hunting elk?

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Originally Posted by sherm_61
I guess I challenge anybody who thinks a 10x scope is all you need put up s 5" bull on a 1,000 target ant see how man times you can hit it or exactly how your shooting.
After all 5" is .5 moa at 1,000 or 2.5" at 500.

Aren’t we talking about hunting elk?
I'm talking hunting in general, our hunting season is deer and elk at the same time.
The point of all this is how much error are you allowing yourself because God knows out in the field things are different. Heart rate from hiking, ive seen people get terrible buck fever etc

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Ok. What in the world are you hunting that you can’t resolve the target with 10x?

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What about when you go antelope hunting gonna mount a different scope?

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Shot plenty of Antelope with less than 10x

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Originally Posted by pathfinder76
Ok. What in the world are you hunting that you can’t resolve the target with 10x?
O.k clue me in on " resolve " if you mean by getting close I'll pass.

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Originally Posted by pathfinder76
Shot plenty of Antelope with less than 10x
At what distances

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I was shooting gophers past 350 yards Saturday with a fixed 6x scope without issue.
It’s OK to have extra power, but not as big a deal as some think it might be.

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Like I said people need to try it on target first, there's way more that can't than can with that low of power.
Pathfinder if you and Jordan are capable at long distance with a 10 x then more power to you because I know for a fact there more that can't than can

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Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by sherm_61
So your telling me you can shoot 5" round bulls at 1 000 with a 10x scope


Again, you're putting words in the mouths of others.
What words am I putting if you can't see a 5" bull how can you hit it, Right

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