He didn't say he was shooting at a 1/2 moa round bull to shoot a 1/2 moa group.
Originally Posted by mathman
He didn't say he was shooting at a 1/2 moa round bull to shoot a 1/2 moa group.
Exactly, then how can you have a .5moa rifle if you can't hold .5 moa. Like everything thing else here it turns into an argument, like Jordan said its not ideal im gonna go out there with every advantage I can I owe the animal that. Don't take this post wrong Jordan 90% can't shoot .5 moa groups at 1,000 with a 10x scope you know and so do I. O consider myself pretty fair shot and I doudt i could especially the older you get the higher power helps.
I think Mr, Sherm might learn a bit about 10X scopes if he would just take a quick trip from Havre to Glascow and ask Pat Sinclair ( Secnarshooter ) for a demo with a S&B 10X PM II. I'm betting Jordan might be able to provide the same learning experience.
If I’m shooting a target or an animal at LR, I want the highest power my scope provides.
Most of the time, I’m at max power and I don’t have problems finding the target in the scope because I know how to point a rifle with my naked eye first
Every big game animal I’ve shot at long range has been the scope’s max power. And that means 20 to 25X
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
You never answered my question how do you know how well your gun shoots doing load development if you can't even hold center or close to a 5" in circle on a paper target? You have easily induced 3-4" of error in your groups
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
You never answered my question how do you know how well your gun shoots doing load development if you can't even hold center or close to a 5" in circle on a paper target? You have easily induced 3-4" of error in your groups
My hunting rifles’ reticle is .18MOA thick, I can quarter a 5” target @ 1K. I didn’t actually measure it, but this is 3 shots @ 500yds with a 7.25# all-up rifle. Kimber Montana 1:8 Lilja @ 22” w/2.5-10x42 NXS w/IHR reticle. 270Win w/140 Badlands @ 3075.
Gotta be pretty darned close to 1/2MOA.
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I killed an elk with one shot at 892 yards with a 19 oz scope set on 9x.
I killed a coyote at 942 yards with one shot with a 14 oz scope set on 9x.
Inside every Leupold Mk5 7-35x is a 33 oz 10x scope. Not something that I’m interested in backpacking 10 miles into the mountains and then up and down mountains every day chasing rams. A 18 or 20 oz 3-9x or 10x is a different animal, and just as capable of killing rams at 600+. Scope choice is a balance of trade-offs that will depend on individual uses, applications, and preferences. Plenty of good and capable options to suit.
I was shooting gophers past 350 yards Saturday with a fixed 6x scope without issue. It’s OK to have extra power, but not as big a deal as some think it might be.
I killed an elk with one shot at 892 yards with a 19 oz scope set on 9x.
I killed a coyote at 942 yards with one shot with a 14 oz scope set on 9x.
Inside every Leupold Mk5 7-35x is a 33 oz 10x scope. Not something that I’m interested in backpacking 10 miles into the mountains and then up and down mountains every day chasing rams. A 18 or 20 oz 3-9x or 10x is a different animal, and just as capable of killing rams at 600+. Scope choice is a balance of trade-offs that will depend on individual uses, applications, and preferences. Plenty of good and capable options to suit.
Inside every Leupold Mk5 7-35x is a 33 oz 10x scope! Touche!
There's a lot of talk about the difficulty of resolving a 1/2 moa target at 1000 yds with a quality 10X scope. Is it really that difficult?
I have not shot at 1000. Nor have I much experience with quality optics. A VX 3i 3.5-10 along with a Super Chicken 10X are my finest scopes. I have several VX 2s in 3-9x40.
None of them have failed to resolve a 1 inch target dot at 300 yds for me. Heck, when it was my only rifle, I zeroed on the same 1 inch dot with a 30-06 and a Weaver V-7 at 300 yds.
Of course atmospherics will have a distinct affect at extended distance.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
In your original post it appears you are at CMP Talladega, not many places have Kongsberg targets.
If so did you shoot on the 600 yard range? How clear was the X on the targets?
I am shooting a 4.5 power scopes in competition out to 600 yards. One is a March and one is a Leupold HD with .75 and .5 minute dots respectively for the reticle.
At 600 yards I can clearly see a 2 1/2” diameter value marker and the X in the center of the target. I would think it would be a chip shot with a 10 power scope.
In your original post it appears you are at CMP Talladega, not many places have Kongsberg targets.
If so did you shoot on the 600 yard range? How clear was the X on the targets?
I am shooting a 4.5 power scopes in competition out to 600 yards. One is a March and one is a Leupold HD with .75 and .5 minute dots respectively for the reticle.
At 600 yards I can clearly see a 2 1/2” diameter value marker and the X in the center of the target. I would think it would be a chip shot with a 10 power scope.
Good afternoon, I was shooting at a new public (county owned) range, really state of the art, in Thomasville GA but limited to 100 yards, at least for now. The K'berg targets are great, no walking back and forth or need for a spotting scope. This scope, Leupold Mark 4HD is make for dialing but have not shot it beyond 100 or dialed beyond original sight-in so it's "unproved" at this point but I do like it quite a bit.