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I don't care about you or your beliefs. Good. Now prove it by shutting the hell up and move on. Stop berating the believers here else get that back in return. I do what I please. You need to pull your head out of your arse and stop whining like a child. It's not all about you. Didn't figure you could/would, because you're an arrogant fuuck. Of course you do as you please, that's exactly why you don't want there to be God. You want no accountability for your chosen lifestyle. Just leave the children alone...... I wasn't the one doing the dummy spit, that's you. I wasn't the one resorting to childish insults, that's you. You present yourself in an arrogant, aggressive, tough boy manner, scream 'stop posting' because you don't like the challenge of questioning faith, then pretend it's the other guys fault, that you are the tragic victim. Wake up, it was never about you. You're arrogant, I'm confident, there's a difference. If stop insulting others for their beliefs means stop posting altogether then we know all we need to know about "DBT". As far as "childish insults", I would expect nothing less than the brutal truth train wrecking your fragile feelings. There is a certain satisfaction to knocking the wicked off their lofty perch, and you certainly do not disappoint. Where's your mirror? Drop your self rightous indignation, look long and hard into it and question your own beliefs and assumptions. But I guess you aren't interested in the truth, natural stellar and planetary formation, genetics, adaption, evolution....do you find the truth 'insulting?' Do you find open inquiry and questioning 'insulting?'
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That is what is meant by "free exercise thereof". We are all free to do as we wish in our homes and churches. If parents want their kids taught their religion in school, that is what private schools are for. If only it was this simple. Currently the schools are teaching the Governments agenda. In other words, brain washing the kids leading them to socialism. If you choose to send your children to private school, you still have to pay your fair share of the public school system. Most folks can't afford that kind of double paying for stuff. miles
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That is what is meant by "free exercise thereof". We are all free to do as we wish in our homes and churches. If parents want their kids taught their religion in school, that is what private schools are for. If only it was this simple. Currently the schools are teaching the Governments agenda. In other words, brain washing the kids leading them to socialism. If you choose to send your children to private school, you still have to pay your fair share of the public school system. Most folks can't afford that kind of double paying for stuff. miles 90% of elementary school teachers are female. How do women vote, especially in big cities? They're not teaching the "government" agenda, they're teaching their own agenda.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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So, if the world is a simulation, as many scientists are saying is increasingly likely, his old is it?
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Idaho_Shooter,
Apparently you don't understand "prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation." Everyday Hunter
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Idaho_Shooter,
Apparently you don't understand "prohibiting the free exercise thereof...." Yes Rich, I understand it well. I heard all about it in Sabbath School as a tyke. The days are coming when your religion will be outlawed. You will be persecuted, jailed, and even murdered for the practice thereof. Do not resist the .gov agents. Go along quietly to your .gov meted punishment as the Christians met the lions in the arenas. Know that you shall receive your reward in Heaven. I said I heard it, I did not say I believed it. Yet, I have not seen anyone in America executed, or even jailed for meeting in a church, or a home, or even discretely praying over a meal in school or other public place.
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Idaho_Shooter,
Apparently you don't understand "prohibiting the free exercise thereof...." Part of freedom of religion is freedom from religion. Part of that you don't get to shove your religion down the throats of my kids in a school paid for with my tax dollars.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Idaho_Shooter,
Apparently you don't understand "prohibiting the free exercise thereof...." Part of freedom of religion is freedom from religion. Part of that you don't get to shove your religion down the throats of my kids in a school paid for with my tax dollars. Scientific observable FACTS are still science even if they conflict with the religion of some small minority of the population. And are thus suitable for teaching in public schools. Again, one is free to teach one's kids whatever you want at home. Today in America, you are free to opt out of public school entirely with tremendous home schooling, and online opportunities, or private parochial schools.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Idaho_Shooter,
Apparently you don't understand "prohibiting the free exercise thereof...." Yes Rich, I understand it well. I heard all about it in Sabbath School as a tyke. The days are coming when your religion will be outlawed. You will be persecuted, jailed, and even murdered for the practice thereof. Do not resist the .gov agents. Go along quietly to your .gov meted punishment as the Christians met the lions in the arenas. Know that you shall receive your reward in Heaven. I said I heard it, I did not say I believed it. Yet, I have not seen anyone in America executed, or even jailed for meeting in a church, or a home, or even discretely praying over a meal in school or other public place. You have not kept up with some school programs.
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Scientific observable FACTS are still science even if they conflict with the religion of some small minority of the population.
And are thus suitable for teaching in public schools. Perhaps you should watch the video, "EXPELLED! No intelligence allowed."
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Scientific observable FACTS are still science even if they conflict with the religion of some small minority of the population.
And are thus suitable for teaching in public schools. Perhaps you should watch the video, "EXPELLED! No intelligence allowed." I have. The "Intelligence" referenced in the title is "intelligent design" being allowed in science classes. ID is religion, not science, and does not belong in science classes.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Idaho_Shooter,
Apparently you don't understand "prohibiting the free exercise thereof...." Yes Rich, I understand it well. I heard all about it in Sabbath School as a tyke. The days are coming when your religion will be outlawed. You will be persecuted, jailed, and even murdered for the practice thereof. Do not resist the .gov agents. Go along quietly to your .gov meted punishment as the Christians met the lions in the arenas. Know that you shall receive your reward in Heaven. I said I heard it, I did not say I believed it. Yet, I have not seen anyone in America executed, or even jailed for meeting in a church, or a home, or even discretely praying over a meal in school or other public place. You have not kept up with some school programs. Rich, please identify a situation where one was jailed or executed for meeting in a church, or a home, or even discretely praying over a meal in school or other public place.
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In my world, Public school teachers would not be allowed to teach any personal opinions, on any subject. They do, and have done so for a long time, resulting in how screwed up the United States has become. I see Christianity no worse than a lot of other opinions being taught. miles
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I don’t know how old the earth is exactly, but if you held a gun to my head, I would say it’s far younger than many believe.
I am convinced by many proofs that there is a God and that he is involved in our day-to-day lives. I am convinced that people are acted upon by good and evil that exists outside and separate and apart from their own intentions and desires. I do not think a really intelligent person can be an atheistic materialist. I believe that the world operates by processes that we may or may not understand, though I do not rule out us understanding them better at a later date. I think much of what we claim to know and understand about physics and the laws of the universe are akin to classical physicians who”knew” disease was cause by imbalances of the humors in the body. Much of what we don’t know is termed “supernatural”, but is in reality anything but and completely natural but beyond our understanding.
I think given what we currently understand about the process within the cells and the insurmountable mathematics involved, Darwinian evolution is an impossibility. Even at four billion years, there hasn’t been enough time for random evolution as envisioned by Darwin to occur.
I’m okay with not knowing the answers to everything. I’m not incurious, I simply don’t worship my intellect nor anyone else’s and realize that there are limitations to what we can understand. I don’t discourage anyone from looking nor discount their answers. But I am skeptical of anyone who states anything with authority as that we’ve always found our knowledge to be lacking in the end no matter how settled and accepted it was.
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