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Anyone have their hands on one of these yet? For the price point it checks a lot of boxes. Cerakote, adjustable comb/LOP, threaded muzzle, etc. I had a first gen 7mm-08 and it was incredibly accurate regardless of the price point. https://ruger.com/products/americanRifleGenII/overview.html
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I have a rail, scope, rings and a Jard trigger just waiting for the Ranch in 22ARC to hit the streets.....
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Huntsman,
I have been contemplating using a JARD trigger to replace the OEM trigger on my Win Model 70 MOA. Factory trigger was lame and could not adjust to my satisfaction. Do you have much experience with JARD? Thanks for feedback.
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I have a Gen 2 in 7-08 with the 20” barrel and it handles well and shoots better than it should. The action is much smoother than the Gen1 and the stock seems to be much stiffer as well. The 3 position safety is a nice feature.
As you mentioned it checked a lot of boxes for me. It’s a great suppressor host. I mounted a Trijicon Credo 2.5-10x56 and it fits perfectly (1/4” gap to barrel) with the rail and medium rings.
I am still trying to fine tune the load using Lapua 150Gr Sencar L, RE15, or Big Game.
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Have a Gen 2 Ranch in 300 BLK showing up this week, will be happy to provide a comparison the the Gen . The stock definitely looks a bit thicker in the forearm.
Hoping to replace the AR magwell with one for a rotary magazine to have the option for flush fit mag carry when hunting and swapping back and forth.
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Any idea if these will be offered in a left hand configuration?
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Any idea if these will be offered in a left hand configuration? Ruger says, "working on it". Their version of- if you see it sometime it means they made it. Sometimes their ideas never hit production, and many times they had unannounced releases
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Ruger has done a pretty good job taking care of us lefties with the MK II, Hawkeye and gen 1 American. Would be surprised if they don't offer the gen 2 in LH eventually.
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Hope they worked on the feeding but doubt it. They are accurate but feed from the magazine like crap. Was shooting a friends Grendel last week and his Ruger made my Howa feel like a tuned Mauser. Sold my 350 L for the same reason.
Decent tools, but the price is getting up there for what they are.....
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Hope they worked on the feeding but doubt it. They are accurate but feed from the magazine like crap. Was shooting a friends Grendel last week and his Ruger made my Howa feel like a tuned Mauser. Sold my 350 L for the same reason.
Decent tools, but the price is getting up there for what they are..... That depends on the mag system.
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100% mag system related. Hint.
If it's AICS,you are golden...if not,you are pissing up ALL ropes. Hint.
Just sayin'..............
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Related to the Gen 1 rifles or the Gen 2? Did they make a Grendel in Gen 1? Hope they worked on the feeding but doubt it. They are accurate but feed from the magazine like crap. Was shooting a friends Grendel last week and his Ruger made my Howa feel like a tuned Mauser. Sold my 350 L for the same reason.
Decent tools, but the price is getting up there for what they are.....
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My friend just got it. It has the green and black stock with AR style magazine. Pretty sure it was Gen 1.
It shot pretty well but feeding was rough. Another disturbing feeding aspect with my American, was that you could get the bolt to turn down prior to engaging bolt slot in the stock. Found this out while working the bolt briskly. I'm not a fan. The American rimfires are Great though....
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It was a hairbrained half-assed idea on their part to use the AR mags on that bolt action.
They should have just stuck to the simple polymer stack magazine like they provide on the 450. Many use those in place of the rotary mags.
They had to butcher the bolt body to get the action to work with the AR mags. Many were hoping the Gen2 rifles would drop the AR mags. No luck.
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I about bought a new Gen 2 yesterday wanting a short barrel 300 blackout for all these reasons. but they happen to have a brand new gen 1 they were really want to sell and price did $150 cheaper. so I bought it instead and I'll pick up some Gen 2 later on in a few different calipers.
as to the mag feeding issues yes the rotary flush fit mags are absolute junk in my book.. converted a few to the Asics type my ex and have zero issues. I've never personally issues with 5.56 and blackouts using the AR mags. done that AICS mag conversions on a 22-250 and a 223 that is dropped in to magpul stock I do like the generation 2 is quite well.. already on a list for the 22 ARC version. not sure what else I'll get chambered in that.
I think I've got six of the Ruger Americans now..
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Related to the Gen 1 rifles or the Gen 2? Did they make a Grendel in Gen 1? Hope they worked on the feeding but doubt it. They are accurate but feed from the magazine like crap. Was shooting a friends Grendel last week and his Ruger made my Howa feel like a tuned Mauser. Sold my 350 L for the same reason.
Decent tools, but the price is getting up there for what they are..... yes I have one shoots excellent. uses a specialty Grendel AR type mag
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What is the going price on them?? I have yet to see one in a store.
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What is the going price on them?? I have yet to see one in a store. around here most are 600 bucks one store about an hour from me has advertised them at 589
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I picked up the Gen II in 7-08 a couple months back. It shoots dang near anything i feed it well. I've settled on a 139 Interlock that prints .75" and under groups easily. Bolt is smooth as butter compared to the Gen 1
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I was/am a big fan of the Gen 1s, must be lucky in that I never ran into any feeding/operation woes. Had them in 223, 7.62x39, 300 Blackout and 6.5 Creedmoor. The Gen 2 is definitely an improvement. The stainless seel bolt IS smoothed out more than the original. It isn't Tikka smooth but its much smoother than Gen 1 bolts before they are broken in. Stock is more rigid, and a bit thicker in the forearm. Feels like holding a Roughtech stock, although the butt feels hollower. Still, its a better stock. Ergos for me are great with the clip-on black cheekpiece removed. This ones a 300 Blackout. Feeds from the supplied Pmag just fine. Had thought about swapping it for a different setup but no need. Works great with the AR mag, as did the 223 version I had.
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