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I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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100 yds & double lung dead dog
T R U M P W O N !
U L T R A M A G A !
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17 HMR is NOT a coyote gun.
Can you kill them with one? Sure.
Should you? Probably not based on years of lack of performance on them. Exactly
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I’ve killed’em with a .17, think there are better rounds especially at longer range
I’ve killed hogs with FMJ’s out of a .17.
There are better rounds for both.
DF Yeah, but you are a doctor and as such you can "surgically" place your bullet
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Get a .22 K Hornet and reload easy and cheap. A pound of powder will go a long way. If you don't reload, get a .223.
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Negative, Ghost Rider. I've seen them soak up a .22 Mag and keep on truckin', no doubt to expire later. As others have said, just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be. Save a few shekels and get a Ruger American .223/5.56.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" -Isaac Asimov
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When I first got my 17 HMR I wanted to shoot something with it. I seen a coyote at about a 100 yards, I put it behind the shoulder and it took off running like it was not even hit. It run straight away from us to about the 200 yard mark and done a flip head over heels dead. I will never use it for that purpose. I have a 22=250 for which it is a coyote slayer. I was using the V max in the 17 HMR. It is more of a squirrel rifle.
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17 HMR is NOT a coyote gun.
Can you kill them with one? Sure.
Should you? Probably not based on years of lack of performance on them. I never let one walk just because I had my 17 with me. It works and pretty good when shots are properly placed. Do I grab it when I am for sure coyote hunting?? Nope. I have better mousetraps but when a target of opportunity arises and I have the 17 I don't pass up the fun. Most critters aren't nearly as tough as some believe.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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If your goal is to recover every coyote you shoot like me , as a fur hunter, don’t use the 17 hmr, it is not a consistent coyote killer. I don’t use anything smaller than 222 rem, I have called and killed hundreds of coyotes I want them to go down in their tracks, dead before they hit the ground and that takes an explosive fragile bullet that does not exit dumping all its energy in the vitals. With a good 17, 20, 22,243, or 25 caliber centerfire and properly constructed bullets designed to fragment at terminal velocities of about 2400 fps you will get those results.Will a 17hmr kill a coyote, sure so will a 22 short as it will kill a 1400 lb steer when properly placed, but if you want the animal reliably put on the stretchers use a consistent killer and place the bullet right.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Only if you want to spend the night with your Hunting buddy and look for your coyote in the morning Buzzards gotta eat.
I am MAGA.
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Get a .22 K Hornet and reload easy and cheap. A pound of powder will go a long way. If you don't reload, get a .223. I like the Hammer 33 gr. over 300 MP and 450 primers in my K-Hornet. Very accurate and great terminal performance. DF
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1st yote I evr killed did a mag dump out a marlin 60 40 yds ☠️
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Toss up a 'curtain of lead' that they can't run through......
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Toss up a 'curtain of lead' that they can't run through...... I guess i'm going to have to reload shotgun shells being that i haven't seen Win. black-box 3'' #4's in 10 years.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
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I've had a few escape packing a 22-250 round. I'm sure they died. They just were not recovered. 17 is a bit light at distance.
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17 HMR is NOT a coyote gun.
Can you kill them with one? Sure.
Should you? Probably not based on years of lack of performance on them. I never let one walk just because I had my 17 with me. It works and pretty good when shots are properly placed. Do I grab it when I am for sure coyote hunting?? Nope. I have better mousetraps but when a target of opportunity arises and I have the 17 I don't pass up the fun. Most critters aren't nearly as tough as some believe. This. I kill coyotes because they are pests. I personally do not care if I recover the animal. Not the best round, but always gets the job done. I usually see them dead later in the day when the tractor gets to wherever they were running. Coyotes eat our microsprinklers in the fields. Fugg everything up. Easily cost me $10,000 a year in repairs and labor.
"The Ballpark burgers were free, why not eat them?" - Wabi-
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I never let one walk just because I had my 17 with me.
It works and pretty good when shots are properly placed.
Do I grab it when I am for sure coyote hunting?? Nope.
I have better mousetraps but when a target of opportunity arises and I have the 17 I don't pass up the fun.
Most critters aren't nearly as tough as some believe. This has been my experience as well. The 17 HMR placed correctly will result in a very dead coyote.
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When the 17hmr first came out there was a guy/cowpoke on ?predatormasters who shot coyotes at a feedlot in Wyoming. He'd hide in the wood loading ramps and snipe them. Killed hordes of them during calving times.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Will it work sure are there better choices, definitely. Coyotes can be tough. If you just want them dead a 17 behind the shoulder inside of 150 they'll die. May run off a bit . If you want to anchor them step up to a 204 , 223 or my favorite the 22-250
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Campfire Kahuna
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17 HMR is NOT a coyote gun.
Can you kill them with one? Sure.
Should you? Probably not based on years of lack of performance on them. I never let one walk just because I had my 17 with me. It works and pretty good when shots are properly placed. Do I grab it when I am for sure coyote hunting?? Nope. I have better mousetraps but when a target of opportunity arises and I have the 17 I don't pass up the fun. Most critters aren't nearly as tough as some believe. This. I kill coyotes because they are pests. I personally do not care if I recover the animal. Not the best round, but always gets the job done. I usually see them dead later in the day when the tractor gets to wherever they were running. Coyotes eat our microsprinklers in the fields. Fugg everything up. Easily cost me $10,000 a year in repairs and labor. Who says you can't train a coyote.....
I am MAGA.
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