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Staemfitters Local 638 was my stepdads union,mine was Dockbuilders 1456.I meet Trump when we drove the piles for the NY TIMES building in Queens,in 1995-6.He jumped up on the Manitowoc and threw the lever to start the piledriving hammer.I met him again in 2003 when we were driving the piles for Trump Tower on the West side of Manhattan.
The crane operator tried to walk the crane with the hammer way up in the leads and flipped leads and boom up and over the crane,it was a gigantic mess ! Trump came by to see it himself,all he said was," Thank God nobody got hurt ." I think NYC Unions support of Democrats is done.People are hurting and fed up.It's about time. I’m with the operating engineers, Local 15, New York City.. I’m working two different locations, South St., Seaport seawall job and uptown on York Avenue, dock builders on both locations, great guys have always had a lot of respect for them. Do you know brother? 1456 Forman. 95% of the guys that I work with are Republicans even the laborers Local 731. I can’t stand when my local tells us who to vote for, I tell them to mind their own business :-) and I also years ago stopped paying into PAC… Most of us feel the same way. Maybe now they’ll stop publicly supporting the Democrats. ' This ^^^ Most of the general public is not aware that most/many union members in the trades vote Republican. Bullschit Steve, most union members do support the Republicans IME - they support Republican ideas, support democratic candidates. Wasn't trade guys but mill guys in the USW. They love the R idea but vote D and that's not based on conjecture but face to face conversations I've had with them. Take the label off - talk the ideas of conservatism they're all for it. Ask who they vote for - D.
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Staemfitters Local 638 was my stepdads union,mine was Dockbuilders 1456.I meet Trump when we drove the piles for the NY TIMES building in Queens,in 1995-6.He jumped up on the Manitowoc and threw the lever to start the piledriving hammer.I met him again in 2003 when we were driving the piles for Trump Tower on the West side of Manhattan.
The crane operator tried to walk the crane with the hammer way up in the leads and flipped leads and boom up and over the crane,it was a gigantic mess ! Trump came by to see it himself,all he said was," Thank God nobody got hurt ." I think NYC Unions support of Democrats is done.People are hurting and fed up.It's about time. I’m with the operating engineers, Local 15, New York City.. I’m working two different locations, South St., Seaport seawall job and uptown on York Avenue, dock builders on both locations, great guys have always had a lot of respect for them. Do you know brother? 1456 Forman. 95% of the guys that I work with are Republicans even the laborers Local 731. I can’t stand when my local tells us who to vote for, I tell them to mind their own business :-) and I also years ago stopped paying into PAC… Most of us feel the same way. Maybe now they’ll stop publicly supporting the Democrats. ' This ^^^ Most of the general public is not aware that most/many union members in the trades vote Republican. Bullschit lol here we go again. :-)
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Staemfitters Local 638 was my stepdads union,mine was Dockbuilders 1456.I meet Trump when we drove the piles for the NY TIMES building in Queens,in 1995-6.He jumped up on the Manitowoc and threw the lever to start the piledriving hammer.I met him again in 2003 when we were driving the piles for Trump Tower on the West side of Manhattan.
The crane operator tried to walk the crane with the hammer way up in the leads and flipped leads and boom up and over the crane,it was a gigantic mess ! Trump came by to see it himself,all he said was," Thank God nobody got hurt ." I think NYC Unions support of Democrats is done.People are hurting and fed up.It's about time. I’m with the operating engineers, Local 15, New York City.. I’m working two different locations, South St., Seaport seawall job and uptown on York Avenue, dock builders on both locations, great guys have always had a lot of respect for them. Do you know brother? 1456 Forman. 95% of the guys that I work with are Republicans even the laborers Local 731. I can’t stand when my local tells us who to vote for, I tell them to mind their own business :-) and I also years ago stopped paying into PAC… Most of us feel the same way. Maybe now they’ll stop publicly supporting the Democrats. ' This ^^^ Most of the general public is not aware that most/many union members in the trades vote Republican. Bullschit Steve, most union members do support the Republicans IME - they support Republican ideas, support democratic candidates. Wasn't trade guys but mill guys in the USW. They love the R idea but vote D and that's not based on conjecture but face to face conversations I've had with them. Take the label off - talk the ideas of conservatism they're all for it. Ask who they vote for - D. Exactly Except for the Public Employees and Teachers Union members, they are mostly Liberal Democrats in both ideology and how they vote.
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Evidence ^^^ that the general public will never be convinced because they have never been in a lunch shack on a heavy construction jobsite and listened to the conversations.
And that's the way it is.
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Evidence ^^^ that the general public will never be convinced because they have never been in a lunch shack on a heavy construction jobsite and listened to the conversations.
And that's the way it is.
/thread Do 'they' have no say in what their dues are used for? How do the officers get those positions? Do they just elect themselves?
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Hell, Teamsters hasn't supported the GOP since '88, the O.E. doesn't advocate either party they vote for those that promote union jobs and benefits and actually come through on their promises... trump failed across the board.
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Evidence ^^^ that the general public will never be convinced because they have never been in a lunch shack on a heavy construction jobsite and listened to the conversations.
And that's the way it is.
/thread LOL. I grew up on the MN Iron Range, very heavy Union member population, they have voted Democrat for ever and still do. I also worked in the Construction industry most of my adult life and have witnessed first hand the stupidity and the unwavering support these brain dead Union members have for their beloved Union and the Democrat Party. The Arrowhead Region in the NE corner is all mining country and filled with Union voters. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/rwyDDDr0/350px-Minnesota-Presidential-Election-Results-2016-svg.png) This map tells the story.
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Evidence ^^^ that the general public will never be convinced because they have never been in a lunch shack on a heavy construction jobsite and listened to the conversations.
And that's the way it is.
/thread LOL. I grew up on the MN Iron Range, very heavy Union member population, they have voted Democrat for ever and still do. I also worked in the Construction industry most of my adult life and have witnessed first hand the stupidity and the unwavering support these brain dead Union members have for their beloved Union and the Democrat Party. The Arrowhead Region in the NE corner is all mining country and filled with Union voters. This map tells the story. The UAW does the same thing to Michigan. Along with the teachers union.
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Staemfitters Local 638 was my stepdads union,mine was Dockbuilders 1456.I meet Trump when we drove the piles for the NY TIMES building in Queens,in 1995-6.He jumped up on the Manitowoc and threw the lever to start the piledriving hammer.I met him again in 2003 when we were driving the piles for Trump Tower on the West side of Manhattan.
The crane operator tried to walk the crane with the hammer way up in the leads and flipped leads and boom up and over the crane,it was a gigantic mess ! Trump came by to see it himself,all he said was," Thank God nobody got hurt ." I think NYC Unions support of Democrats is done.People are hurting and fed up.It's about time. I’m with the operating engineers, Local 15, New York City.. I’m working two different locations, South St., Seaport seawall job and uptown on York Avenue, dock builders on both locations, great guys have always had a lot of respect for them. Do you know brother? 1456 Forman. 95% of the guys that I work with are Republicans even the laborers Local 731. I can’t stand when my local tells us who to vote for, I tell them to mind their own business :-) and I also years ago stopped paying into PAC… Most of us feel the same way. Maybe now they’ll stop publicly supporting the Democrats. ' This ^^^ Most of the general public is not aware that most/many union members in the trades vote Republican. Bullschit Steve, most union members do support the Republicans IME - they support Republican ideas, support democratic candidates. Wasn't trade guys but mill guys in the USW. They love the R idea but vote D and that's not based on conjecture but face to face conversations I've had with them. Take the label off - talk the ideas of conservatism they're all for it. Ask who they vote for - D. I belong to Local 798 and I know for a fact that our Local supported Trump All of the labors and teamsters that worked pipelines supported Trump In fact our Business Manager was on Fox with Hannity wearing a Trump cap
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Hell, Teamsters hasn't supported the GOP since '88, the O.E. doesn't advocate either party they vote for those that promote union jobs and benefits and actually come through on their promises... trump failed across the board.
phil Hell, neither do the child diddlers of socal......clearly
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Staemfitters Local 638 was my stepdads union,mine was Dockbuilders 1456.I meet Trump when we drove the piles for the NY TIMES building in Queens,in 1995-6.He jumped up on the Manitowoc and threw the lever to start the piledriving hammer.I met him again in 2003 when we were driving the piles for Trump Tower on the West side of Manhattan.
The crane operator tried to walk the crane with the hammer way up in the leads and flipped leads and boom up and over the crane,it was a gigantic mess ! Trump came by to see it himself,all he said was," Thank God nobody got hurt ." I think NYC Unions support of Democrats is done.People are hurting and fed up.It's about time. I’m with the operating engineers, Local 15, New York City.. I’m working two different locations, South St., Seaport seawall job and uptown on York Avenue, dock builders on both locations, great guys have always had a lot of respect for them. Do you know brother? 1456 Forman. 95% of the guys that I work with are Republicans even the laborers Local 731. I can’t stand when my local tells us who to vote for, I tell them to mind their own business :-) and I also years ago stopped paying into PAC… Most of us feel the same way. Maybe now they’ll stop publicly supporting the Democrats. ' This ^^^ Most of the general public is not aware that most/many union members in the trades vote Republican. Bullschit Steve, most union members do support the Republicans IME - they support Republican ideas, support democratic candidates. Wasn't trade guys but mill guys in the USW. They love the R idea but vote D and that's not based on conjecture but face to face conversations I've had with them. Take the label off - talk the ideas of conservatism they're all for it. Ask who they vote for - D. I belong to Local 798 and I know for a fact that our Local supported Trump All of the labors and teamsters that worked pipelines supported Trump In fact our Business Manager was on Fox with Hannity wearing a Trump cap At the time I was in Local 47 - well I think technically it was like USW 2-00047 or some such thing in 2021/2022. P&G Green Bay. Converting Machine 5 (old ones). Josh Schott who was the Union Pres said "We don't endorse or care who you vote for, we're here for the people and wages for the workers inside the plant". Which I believe, great. (I took about 9 months off from what I've done most of my life and went to work in the mill at this time. Sabbatical if you will) Guys loved the Republican ideas - but they voted for Biden. I'm not saying all did or don't but EOD, the talk about presidents came down to voting for Biden, even tho talking of hunting/shooting/money/time off were all aligned with conservative ideas. I believe they felt that they had to vote D to preserve the wage that allowed them to live their conservative lifestyle. Just my experience - not saying it's everyone's or iron clad.
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These stupid Union miners and tradesmen always had the same pathetic comeback when asked why they keep voting Democrat knowing that doing so will jeopardize their Second Amendment rights.
They would puff their chest out and say” I’ll liked to see em try”, idiots
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Evidence ^^^ that the general public will never be convinced because they have never been in a lunch shack on a heavy construction jobsite and listened to the conversations.
And that's the way it is.
/thread Union guys are heroes. You keep donating 90 per cent to democrats but claim to be pro American. lol Clown world https://www.politico.com/newsletter...up-pipeline-workers-union-backing-790000
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Evidence ^^^ that the general public will never be convinced because they have never been in a lunch shack on a heavy construction jobsite and listened to the conversations.
And that's the way it is.
/thread Do 'they' have no say in what their dues are used for? How do the officers get those positions? Do they just elect themselves? This clown is a slava Ukrainian left wing union lib. Not surprised she won’t answer
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There is a lot of dissatisfaction among the rank and file. We get the propaganda from the national, or Rep. is taking the silver while quietly disagreeing. He doesn’t even try to influence us anymore.
The last Rep called our former President and wanted us to take a knee at lunchtime to support George Floyd.
“You have a better shot of lunch with the Pope than that happening”
The current president is not as tactful. Open secrets indicates almost 95 per donations to democrats https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/C00012476/summary/2022A few votes don’t win elections, millions of union dollars do
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There is a lot of dissatisfaction among the rank and file. We get the propaganda from the national, or Rep. is taking the silver while quietly disagreeing. He doesn’t even try to influence us anymore.
The last Rep called our former President and wanted us to take a knee at lunchtime to support George Floyd.
“You have a better shot of lunch with the Pope than that happening”
The current president is not as tactful. Open secrets indicates almost 95 per donations to democrats https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/C00012476/summary/2022A few votes don’t win elections, millions of union dollars do What’s even more ridiculous is Law Enforcement pay dues to organized crime to represent them
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Evidence ^^^ that the general public will never be convinced because they have never been in a lunch shack on a heavy construction jobsite and listened to the conversations.
And that's the way it is.
/thread Do 'they' have no say in what their dues are used for? How do the officers get those positions? Do they just elect themselves? You can opt to have none of your dues go to political parties. Union Officials are voted in by the members that bother to vote. Just like Political elections . No one votes them selves in . Bad Union officers get in by apathetic Union members . Just like Political officers.
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Thinking a large percentage of Union members will break ranks and vote Republican is akin to believing the same about the black community. Ain’t gunna happen. And thinking you would not suck each and every dick you come across... equally impossible. I reckon.
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