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Originally Posted by Raeford
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Evidence ^^^ that the general public will never be convinced because they have never been in a lunch shack on a heavy construction jobsite and listened to the conversations.
And that's the way it is.

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Do 'they' have no say in what their dues are used for?
How do the officers get those positions?
Do they just elect themselves?
The same way Biden got the Whitehouse.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by Direct_Drive
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Evidence ^^^ that the general public will never be convinced because they have never been in a lunch shack on a heavy construction jobsite and listened to the conversations.
And that's the way it is.

/thread

Do 'they' have no say in what their dues are used for?
How do the officers get those positions?
Do they just elect themselves?
The same way Biden got the Whitehouse.

biden is part of the UAW family. They claim him and cheer for him enthusiastically.

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Joe's first day in office he had 11K of my brothers laid off from the Keystone pipe line.A lot of us union tradesman arn't listening to the bull$hit leadership!😡💩🤡🤡🤡🤡

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Originally Posted by garddogg56
Joe's first day in office he had 11K of my brothers laid off from the Keystone pipe line.A lot of us union tradesman arn't listening to the bull$hit leadership!😡💩🤡🤡🤡🤡


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Originally Posted by jwp475
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Joe's first day in office he had 11K of my brothers laid off from the Keystone pipe line.A lot of us union tradesman arn't listening to the bull$hit leadership!😡💩🤡🤡🤡🤡


Exactly 💯


But your dues are paying for his re-election campaign.


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Originally Posted by superlight17b
Staemfitters Local 638 was my stepdads union,mine was Dockbuilders 1456.I meet Trump when we drove the piles for the NY TIMES building in Queens,in 1995-6.He jumped up on the Manitowoc and threw the lever to start the piledriving hammer.I met him again in 2003 when we were driving the piles for Trump Tower on the West side of Manhattan.
The crane operator tried to walk the crane with the hammer way up in the leads and flipped leads and boom up and over the crane,it was a gigantic mess ! Trump came by to see it himself,all he said was," Thank God nobody got hurt ." I think NYC Unions support of Democrats is done.People are hurting and fed up.It's about time.

All this time I thought Manhattan was solid granite.

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Union officials don’t care what the “rank and file” think. The sole purpose of the union is to raise money for the DNC.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by garddogg56
Joe's first day in office he had 11K of my brothers laid off from the Keystone pipe line.A lot of us union tradesman arn't listening to the bull$hit leadership!😡💩🤡🤡🤡🤡


Exactly 💯


But your dues are paying for his re-election campaign.

No they are not, that is where you are dead wrong



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Originally Posted by jwp475
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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by garddogg56
Joe's first day in office he had 11K of my brothers laid off from the Keystone pipe line.A lot of us union tradesman arn't listening to the bull$hit leadership!😡💩🤡🤡🤡🤡


Exactly 💯


But your dues are paying for his re-election campaign.

No they are not, that is where you are dead wrong

Your local is not a part of a national?


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by garddogg56
Joe's first day in office he had 11K of my brothers laid off from the Keystone pipe line.A lot of us union tradesman arn't listening to the bull$hit leadership!😡💩🤡🤡🤡🤡


Exactly 💯


But your dues are paying for his re-election campaign.

No they are not, that is where you are dead wrong

Your local is not a part of a national?


Local 798 is part of the UA, but our Local doesn't use dues to support political candidates



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Originally Posted by jwp475
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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by garddogg56
Joe's first day in office he had 11K of my brothers laid off from the Keystone pipe line.A lot of us union tradesman arn't listening to the bull$hit leadership!😡💩🤡🤡🤡🤡


Exactly 💯


But your dues are paying for his re-election campaign.



No they are not, that is where you are dead wrong

Union dues do not go into what you call a reelection campaign fund? PAC /political action committee. Union members are not forced to pay into PAC. If you want a portion of your paycheck to go into it they will take it out. If not, they will not take it out, I opted out, none of my money goes into pac…

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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by garddogg56
Joe's first day in office he had 11K of my brothers laid off from the Keystone pipe line.A lot of us union tradesman arn't listening to the bull$hit leadership!😡💩🤡🤡🤡🤡


Exactly 💯


But your dues are paying for his re-election campaign.

No they are not, that is where you are dead wrong

Your local is not a part of a national?


Local 798 is part of the UA, but our Local doesn't use dues to support political candidates

But they kick up a payment to the national correct?

It’s like planned parenthood saying they don’t use taxpayers money to kill children. But the money they “don’t spend” on one thing frees up money to spend on the other thing.

Unions fund democratic campaigns.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Unions fund democratic campaigns.

FACT!


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by garddogg56
Joe's first day in office he had 11K of my brothers laid off from the Keystone pipe line.A lot of us union tradesman arn't listening to the bull$hit leadership!😡💩🤡🤡🤡🤡


Exactly 💯


But your dues are paying for his re-election campaign.

No they are not, that is where you are dead wrong

Your local is not a part of a national?


Local 798 is part of the UA, but our Local doesn't use dues to support political candidates

But they kick up a payment to the national correct?

It’s like planned parenthood saying they don’t use taxpayers money to kill children. But the money they “don’t spend” on one thing frees up money to spend on the other thing.

Unions fund democratic campaigns.

Kick up a payment To the national? I’m not too sure what you mean. political funding comes through PAC. They only get funding for political funding from those who contribute into PAC. I do not contribute it into PAC..

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Originally Posted by Teal
It's not even about the union for me. I just can't remember the last time "traditional" allies of the DNC have publically called them out and said they're done with it.

Unions
African-Americans

Groups like that are not being open about dissatisfaction with the DNC - wayyyy too late to save our country but still, at least they've mentioned the rising water finally.
add Tulsi to that list too????


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Maybe if Republicans would quit badmouthing unions things might improve. I am not talking about government employee and especially teacher unions. The white pipe liners, the Teamsters, and the paper mill workers I know are voting Trump. Maybe a kind word aimed at people who work for a living (they are called labor unions) might help. The Republicans are still. by and large anti union and almost 80 years ago the Republicans they overrode Truman's veto of the union busting Taft-Hartley Act. It's a wonder the Republicans can get the majority of the white union vote.

The right to work states are responsible in a large part for the illegal immigration. Strong unions would have kept them out of the trades. I call those states RIGHT TO WORK FOR LESS.


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Union officials don’t care what the “rank and file” think. The sole purpose of the union is to raise money for the DNC.



I believe rank and file union members don't know this. They should, but the reptiles running the unions would never spill those beans to the "Proletariat".


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by garddogg56
Joe's first day in office he had 11K of my brothers laid off from the Keystone pipe line.A lot of us union tradesman arn't listening to the bull$hit leadership!😡💩🤡🤡🤡🤡


Exactly 💯


But your dues are paying for his re-election campaign.

No they are not, that is where you are dead wrong

Your local is not a part of a national?


Local 798 is part of the UA, but our Local doesn't use dues to support political candidates

But they kick up a payment to the national correct?

It’s like planned parenthood saying they don’t use taxpayers money to kill children. But the money they “don’t spend” on one thing frees up money to spend on the other thing.

Unions fund democratic campaigns.



They do indeed, Gruff. It's not a lie, It's a damn lie when they say they don't.


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Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by Direct_Drive
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Evidence ^^^ that the general public will never be convinced because they have never been in a lunch shack on a heavy construction jobsite and listened to the conversations.
And that's the way it is.

/thread

Do 'they' have no say in what their dues are used for?
How do the officers get those positions?
Do they just elect themselves?

Officers are voted in by the dues paying members. Anyone is free to run against any officer as long as they pay dues.

I've been elected 2 terms for our local VP, 3 terms for local President, also legislative chairman twice.

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Originally Posted by BamBam
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by garddogg56
Joe's first day in office he had 11K of my brothers laid off from the Keystone pipe line.A lot of us union tradesman arn't listening to the bull$hit leadership!😡💩🤡🤡🤡🤡


Exactly 💯


But your dues are paying for his re-election campaign.

No they are not, that is where you are dead wrong

Your local is not a part of a national?


Local 798 is part of the UA, but our Local doesn't use dues to support political candidates

But they kick up a payment to the national correct?

It’s like planned parenthood saying they don’t use taxpayers money to kill children. But the money they “don’t spend” on one thing frees up money to spend on the other thing.

Unions fund democratic campaigns.

Kick up a payment To the national? I’m not too sure what you mean. political funding comes through PAC. They only get funding for political funding from those who contribute into PAC. I do not contribute it into PAC..

Do the locals send any any money to the national?


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