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Yep. Without question. I can separate my knee jerk emotions from right and wrong.

This place is full of anxiety riddled commies masquerading as conservatives.

Nowhere in the original constitution was abortion been made legal or illegal. The founders knew nothing of this murdering act. This falls on morals once again. What kind of society do we want? One that treats innocent life with ZERO respect? There is no protection to murder a baby in the constitution, which is exactly with R vs W was over turned and sent back to the states. Once that was done, then the question becomes, what kind of country do we want to live in? We need some morals. A godless society is one that WILL fail. History has proved that time and again

The first recorded evidence of induced abortion is from the Egyptian Ebers Papyrus in 1550 BCE. Many of the methods employed in early cultures were non-surgical. Physical activities such as strenuous labor, climbing, paddling, weightlifting, or diving were a common technique.

This piece describes abortion practices in use from the 1600s to the 19th century among the inhabitants of North America. The abortive techniques of women from different ethnic and racial groups as found in historical literature are revealed. Thus, the point is made that abortion is not simply a "now issue" that effects select women. Instead, it is demonstrated that it is a widespread practice as solidly rooted in our past as it is in the present.

PIP: Abortion was frequently practiced in North America during the period from 1600 to 1900. Many tribal societies knew how to induce abortions. They used a variety of methods including the use of black root and cedar root as abortifacient agents. During the colonial period, the legality of abortion varied from colony to colony and reflected the attitude of the European country which controlled the specific colony. In the British colonies abortions were legal if they were performed prior to quickening. In the French colonies abortions were frequently performed despite the fact that they were considered to be illegal. In the Spanish and Portuguese colonies abortion was illegal. From 1776 until the mid-1800s abortion was viewed as socially unacceptable; however, abortions were not illegal in most states. During the 1860s a number of states passed anti-abortion laws. Most of these laws were ambiguous and difficult to enforce. After 1860 stronger anti-abortion laws were passed and these laws were more vigorously enforced. As a result, many women began to utilize illegal underground abortion services. Although abortion was legalized in 1970, many women are still forced to obtain illegal abortion or to perform self-abortions due to the economic constraints imposed by the Hyde Amendment and the unavailability of services in many areas. Throughout the colonial period and during the early years of the republic, the abortion situation for slave women was different than for other women. Slaves were subject to the rules of their owners, and the owners refused to allow their slaves to terminate pregnancies. The owners wanted their slaves to produce as many children as possible since these children belonged to the slave owners. This situation persisted until the end of the slavery era.

Why should we reward the rapist by forcing the mother and/or her husband to raise his child.

Why should we victimize the mother by making her stare into the face of her rapist every day?

If some violent low IQ ANTIFA thug rapes your wife/daughter are you going to raise that kid?

There are piles more white babies aborted than black babies.


Just who are we so happy to be getting rid of?

Blacks account for 12% of the population and 40% of women who get abortions in the U.S. are black. Blacks are 3.6 times more likely to get an abortion.

That's just the facts.

It is extremely hypocritical to claim it is okay to commit murder in cases where not doing so would make the mother "uncomfortable".

Does not the sin of murder outweigh any concerns of comfort?

It's a stand that both parties should have absolutely ignored…..

Blacks account for 12% of the population and 40% of women who get abortions in the U.S. are black. Blacks are 3.6 times more likely to get an abortion.

That's just the facts.

That's also why beginning 15 years after Roe crime rates began a huge drop.

There are piles more white babies aborted than black babies.

States rights issue.
But if you are claiming to be a true Christian and are pro abortion, we aren't following the same God or Bible. Abortion is evil. At what point did it become our right as lowly humans to decide who lives and dies at birth?

That's also why beginning 15 years after Roe crime rates began a huge drop.

Whether we like it or not, “murder” is a legal definition. Homicide is not. If it’s not legally “murder”, it’s homicide. Just like self defense shootings. Homicide can be justifiable based on the circumstances.

Answer the question.

Will you raise the kid or not?

And in feudal Japan, they wouldn't just execute the kids, they'd execute the whole family. Depending on the crime they world start at either at the "dishonored" father or grandfarther and execute all the descendants.

Not true. It's 5:1 the other way.

If, as they say, 73 million babies have been aborted, how would you like to live in a country with 58 million more teenage criminals or welfare bums who weren't wanted by their parents?

I would define murder as unjustified killing of a sentient being. To determine abortion as murder, we would have to determine at what point an embryo gains sentience.

The Road to Awareness
But when does the magical journey of consciousness begin? Consciousness requires a sophisticated network of highly interconnected components, nerve cells. Its physical substrate, the thalamo-cortical complex that provides consciousness with its highly elaborate content, begins to be in place between the 24th and 28th week of gestation.