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Except for the fact that there are too many whities in the south and there is no mention of Black reparations, this topic is.....

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Originally Posted by WMacD
Except for the fact that there are too many whities in the south and there is no mention of Black reparations, this topic is.....

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To continue to live in the godless, multicultural American Empire.


America was multicultural for a long time. If I'm not mistaken blacks were hauled over by people in the south for use as slaves because the Indians that lived there would escape instead of work like mules. That's three cultures right there without counting the Cajuns and others. I guess you just want to pick and choose which cultures you want to mingle with.

The godless thing amazes me. I've been all over the US and it's hard to throw a rock and not hit a church. You don't need the government to support something that seems to be doing just fine on it's own merits. Any person can worship, or not, any religion of their choosing without fear of persecution. That SHOULD be good enough. If you're talking about government supporting one religion over another....well people have fought and died to keep that one from happening and count me in on those that would kill those that would want to change that.


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Once you throw in with rifle loonies, I guess you have to expect
that an inordinate interest in rifles is only one vector for irrationality and that a wider and deeper phenomenon of lunacy inevitably will find expression here too. It still is important to understand that buying into rifles does not automatically commit all of us to every other wacko cause that bubbles up out of the swamp.

The LOS-er mantra expressed here embraces economic isolation, anti-war pacifism, secession with an inevitable civil war -- again, after the last tragic waste of blood and opportunity!-- and theocracy.

This witches' brew of academic thumb-sucking and atavistic myth could not be espoused elsewhere without being laughed out of town. And if actively pursued instead of just mumbled under free speech guarantees, the program ultimately and rightly would place its adherents on the Attorney General's list of dangerous nutters.

It's time to draw a line.

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Originally Posted by 1B
Once you throw in with rifle loonies, I guess you have to expect
that an inordinate interest in rifles is only one vector for irrationality and that a wider and deeper phenomenon of lunacy inevitably will find expression here too. It still is important to understand that buying into rifles does not automatically commit all of us to every other wacko cause that bubbles up out of the swamp.

The LOS-er mantra expressed here embraces economic isolation, anti-war pacifism, secession with an inevitable civil war -- again, after the last tragic waste of blood and opportunity!-- and theocracy.

This witches' brew of academic thumb-sucking and atavistic myth could not be espoused elsewhere without being laughed out of town. And if actively pursued instead of just mumbled under free speech guarantees, the program ultimately and rightly would place its adherents on the Attorney General's list of dangerous nutters.

It's time to draw a line.

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It's obvious that you've spent far too much time living within the D.C. archipelago.

So tell me,..

What "line" should be drawn?

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Pat Buchanan was pushing for a break up of the United States shortly after the Soviet collapse. It sounded like a good idea then, and I still like it.

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Bistoe,

Secession and theocracy would be a start. My line is certainlt drawn there.

I also believe that taking an oath of loyalty to the US means something. I did so out of high school 45 yeares ago when I volunteered for the US Army and have spent the bulk of my life since then honoring that promise.

Discarding that oath and raising arms against the US is treason by anyone's definition -- look it up -- and IMO those who do so for all time remain traitors.

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Originally Posted by 1B
Bistoe,

Secession and theocracy would be a start. My line is certainlt drawn there.

I also believe that taking an oath of loyalty to the US means something. I did so out of high school 45 yeares ago when I volunteered for the US Army and have spent the bulk of my life since then honoring that promise.

Discarding that oath and raising arms against the US is treason by anyone's definition -- look it up -- and IMO those who do so for all time remain traitors.

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Foreign and domestic,.... remember?

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Remaining loyal and true to concepts, rather than countries....

To beliefs, rather than borders....

To Freedom, rather than flags....

To Liberty, rather than land....

Seems to me to have always been the crux.

I'll toe that line, rather than the other.




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Revising history to fit seems to be popular of late.

This nation was founded by people that fled a nation that had an official church. Now people are trying to say it was founded with a specific religion in mind? I don't think so, Tim.*

*lame Tool Time reference.


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Originally Posted by DixieFreedoms


To preserve the South for Southerners by establishing a Southern constitutional republic based on historic Christian principles and mores;



On, this, as I'll call BS.

I don't want ANY damned religion, 'cept the one I CHOOSE to follow. You keep yours to yourself (north of the Mason-Dixon line, IIRC).




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These here southerners are starting to sound like Chechens...or any number of other angry religious based seperatist movements. Weird.


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Who the hell are you calling religious based separatists?

DF is in PA; last time I checked, that ain't down here in the South.

Neither is Kentucky....




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In my defense...

I was born and raised all my life in the Old Dominion, and even had choice of duty station out of EM A school due to high scores so I CHOSE Norfolk VA, (which does in fact prove I am sick in the head). When I moved north of the Potomac I nearly had a nervous breakdown, but I did it for a good job for my wife's sake, but that dynamic is about to change real soon too. We be moving back home to Dixie as soon as we settle on a place.

My ancestors go back in VA to the mid 1600's. My great great grandpap was captured at Vicksburg. I think he had about 11 brothers and most fought with distinction, one got a battlefield commission for bravery at one of the Manassas fights. Virginia is in my bone marrow, way down deep. Before I ever entered first grade my dad layed out a Virginia State Flag on the kitchen table and taught me what the latin motto meant.

The thing that got me going in this direction was Lawrence vs Texas. I watched the build up to that decision, saw the beating Santorum took for his public stand. But when the decision came out I was dumb-struck. The Federal Govt had come out, after thoughtful debate, to sustain sodomy over and against the decision of the freely elected legislature of the State of Texas. The Constitution stipulates that a republican form of government will be supported, established and sustained in every one of the individtual states. If Texas cannot have sodomy laws then no state in the union can craft any laws congruent with their local values, customs, mores values, english common law or their faith. Plain flat and simple.

After the Lawrence decision came out, I waited until quitting time at work, then I immediately drove over to the gift shops at Gettysburg, bought the Confederate naval ensign and then went home and nailed it broad side on the side of my house.

I cannot, I will not, bow down in blind loyalty to an over-reaching oligarchy/tyranny that is based on the "values" of sodomy, atheism, child-murder, and socialism-marxism.

We only advocate a Christian Republic in the context of our heritage, not an inquisitional sword to compel faith. If the feds would leave us alone, our institutions down south would reflect our majority core values which happen to be derived from Christianity.

Seriously; this knee jerk reaction and this cry of theocracy reveals that you fellows have never waded through the antecedent philosophical works that brought about the American Revolution, specifically Locke and Rutherford etc. To a great extent our freedoms and the underlying historic thought processes that support those freedoms come MORE from the Scottish enlightenment than even England. Why should we abandon this to sustain an idealistic phantom of a purely secularized state that is nothing more nor less than white-washed-marxist-atheism?

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Originally Posted by DixieFreedoms


We only advocate a Christian Republic .....


WHO THE HELL IS "WE"?

And, my roots go back just as deep, just as broad, and just as proud. So?




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Originally Posted by DixieFreedoms
In my defense...

I was born and raised all my life in the Old Dominion, and even had choice of duty station out of EM A school due to high scores so I CHOSE Norfolk VA, (which does in fact prove I am sick in the head). When I moved north of the Potomac I nearly had a nervous breakdown, but I did it for a good job for my wife's sake, but that dynamic is about to change real soon too. We be moving back home to Dixie as soon as we settle on a place.

My ancestors go back in VA to the mid 1600's. My great great grandpap was captured at Vicksburg. I think he had about 11 brothers and most fought with distinction, one got a battlefield commission for bravery at one of the Manassas fights. Virginia is in my bone marrow, way down deep. Before I ever entered first grade my dad layed out a Virginia State Flag on the kitchen table and taught me what the latin motto meant.

The thing that got me going in this direction was Lawrence vs Texas. I watched the build up to that decision, saw the beating Santorum took for his public stand. But when the decision came out I was dumb-struck. The Federal Govt had come out, after thoughtful debate, to sustain sodomy over and against the decision of the freely elected legislature of the State of Texas. The Constitution stipulates that a republican form of government will be supported, established and sustained in every one of the individtual states. If Texas cannot have sodomy laws then no state in the union can craft any laws congruent with their local values, customs, mores values, english common law or their faith. Plain flat and simple.

After the Lawrence decision came out, I waited until quitting time at work, then I immediately drove over to the gift shops at Gettysburg, bought the Confederate naval ensign and then went home and nailed it broad side on the side of my house.

I cannot, I will not, bow down in blind loyalty to an over-reaching oligarchy/tyranny that is based on the "values" of sodomy, atheism, child-murder, and socialism-marxism.

We only advocate a Christian Republic in the context of our heritage, not an inquisitional sword to compel faith. If the feds would leave us alone, our institutions down south would reflect our majority core values which happen to be derived from Christianity.

Seriously; this knee jerk reaction and this cry of theocracy reveals that you fellows have never waded through the antecedent philosophical works that brought about the American Revolution, specifically Locke and Rutherford etc. To a great extent our freedoms and the underlying historic thought processes that support those freedoms come MORE from the Scottish enlightenment than even England. Why should we abandon this to sustain an idealistic phantom of a purely secularized state that is nothing more nor less than white-washed-marxist-atheism?
Well, I can translate semper liber as always free, but what does montani mean. I'm guessing mountains.

PS My 75 year old mom is a Virginian. The home she was raised in (Danville) is still in the family. Her side goes back to colonial days in the South.

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With all respect and courtesy.

Think it through. When you took an oath to the Constitution, all enemies foreign and domestic, did you intend to sustain a sodomite world view? Or the magic minute philosphy of abortion; that one minute the "thing" may be murdered but then one minute after birth it suddenly becomes a child with inalienable rights?

America, right now today, is NOT what it was even 30 years ago, much less 50 or 75.

Place yourself in the shoes of Sam Adams and Patrick Henry who had to actually rack their brains concerning the core basic philosphy of what government is and then take a stand against the King and Kingdom to whom/which they had formerly been loyal.


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We;

specifically League of the South

And maybe you might consider the actual wording of the first Constitution of VA...


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