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they sell no less than 11 models so equipped ? If they were no good, how come they sell so many ?
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Last I heard, Leupold's export models scopes are not their fully multicoated models. They export a special version, aimed at the bottom of the european market with VXI level of coatings. They do this because of the very high tariffs on quality scopes. Looks like the euro politicans don't want any competition. I understand they are very popular over there. E

Looks like the euro politicans don't want any competition. I understand they are very popular over there. E

Matt, do you often encounter situations that require adjusting the lighted reticle? NF used to make scopes with the external rheostat in the earlier models which I am sure you are aware of.They seemed to work fine,so it is not a matter of nightforce having a poor design as they traded for ease of parallax adjustment over ease of intensity adjusment. I have NF scopes with both focal planes and a SB in the first focal plane. You are right about personal preference, it is all in what you are used to and most comfortable with. I have the nprr reticle and do not seem to be bothered by the total illumination of the reticle. Have shot the dot also and like it illuminated.

Jarret does recommend Swarovski over Leupold for general use. But not for rifles of the .375's recoil and higher. See July 2004 ed. of Rifle, page 50. "Tough Scopes" by John Barsness.

Jarret does recommend Swarovski over Leupold for general use. But not for rifles of the .375's recoil and higher. See July 2004 ed. of Rifle, page 50. "Tough Scopes" by John Barsness.
Nobody makes my list of good, all around scopes when they have an eye relief of 3.5 inches or less and use the euro, non locking focusing system. E

Every time I see something that illistrates this so called "far exceeds" in performance, I discover I've been doing that and more for quite sometime now with my Leupolds.

It's called a basis for comparison. You don't have one.

E reminds me of the type of guy who will say his car is just as fast, handles and stops as well yours after you�ve explained its power to weight ratio, CG height, width, suspension, tires and brakes and the time you have with it at the track�.

�Mine accelerates hard too�Corners? I�ve been going around corners for 53 years, my car goes around corners just fine without that fancy stuff�its brakes work so good I skidded a tire once!...and I�m an awesome driver!�

Luckily for cars we have these things called racetracks. A full tank of BS won�t do you any good there. If you ever get such a person to the track, it doesn�t take long after seeing they�re 30 seconds or so slower per lap that a lightbulb goes on. They finally have a basis of comparison. Sure, their car might �accelerate hard� but after getting walked on the front straight they realize everything is relative. After seeing cars come upon them like they�re standing still in the corners they realize that while they may have been going around corners for 53 years, that doesn�t mean it can�t be done better. They begin to realize while they might be an �awesome driver� they still have plenty to learn�.

But E is the type who will refuse to ever go to the track. Won�t even look through the scopes his are �just as good as.� Sometimes living in your own fantasy world is more comfortable. He can continue to claim his Honda with a big muffler is a Corvette Killer�and as long as he avoids ever lining them up, he can continue.