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Does anybody have any experience with the Choate Stocks? Personally, I like the feel and stability, but they are mighty heavy. And the rail for the bipod doesn't stabilize my Harris as well as it should. It slides around.


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Choate = junk. Try a Mac stock if you want a syn. stock. The McMillian stocks are as good as it gets. And I am sure Big Stick and others will tell you the same.


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Okay...now tell me WHY it is junk. I am more than willing to listen. But give me a good reason.


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It is a POS,in the same manner a BSA is,as compared to a Leupold. Materials and methods employed,yield a POS.

Dat's about all there is to it..............


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Mmmhh....Stick, you have got my attention. But please elaborate: What makes a good stock vs. the POS junk? Is it weight? Durability? Handling? Feel? Accuracy?

First off, I cannot complain about accuracy. I have groups in the low 2s and 3s. The stock seems durable. It feels alright.
The weight is horrid. It is tough to handle because of it.
I am not trying to argue the point here. But please explain to me how I would be better of with McMillan or otherwise.
This would be my first time replacing a factory stock (shame on me), so enlighten me. I gotta show some good reason to the boss to fork out that kind of money.


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Stick: By the way, I knew this subject would catch your attention. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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My bedtime,so it'll be short and sweet.

Firstly,one can never argue with results. If you are tickled where you are at,then there is no need to look further.

My guess is you posed the query so as to gain momentum in the obvious direction you are headed.

Fit/feel is subjective,but that don't make it unimportant. Rigidity,durability and functionality are real functions,that matter as well. Weight is yet another facet.

Shake 'em all up and you can have any one of a million combos,constructed of vastly differing materials.

You know what you want,go get it.....................(grin)







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Mmmmmmm.....

Proofed my last Post and it were a little rattling,but you get my drift..........................


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Stick: I did not post the choate question because that's where I am headed. I am toying with the idea up upgrading to a McMillan, but I am looking for good reasons.
I can see how the BSA is a POS. Clarity, Holding zero, etc...


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I meant you was headed towards McMillan. Only lost souls head to Choate(grin).

If the best isn't a good reason,then there isn't one..................



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Matthias,

I have a Choate Ultimate Varmint stock, and yes, it is heavy. However, for a rifle that will carried a short distance and shot prone (or off the bench) for a protracted period, this is not an issue.

As for the bipod being unstable, do you have the correct adapter installed in the rail?

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George: I suppose you are right about the weight. Again, I am trying to justify the purchase of a McMillan, but so far I have not had enough points to convince me.
Now, for the bipod: The Harris I have came of a Steyr SSG with an identical rail (or groove). It fits into the Savage rail just fine, but with the set screw tightened, the bipod still slides back and forth with recoil.


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As a curiousity,call and talk to Kelly or Mike McMillan and relate to them your query.

Describe your wants/needs/wishes/reservations and allow them to dissect the differences betwixt the two.

If you gotta hear something,it is best to hear it from the Horse's Mouth.........................


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Never woulda thunk of dat possibility....
I might do that. The more I look at the A Series on their site, the more I drool. Rags please! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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I have 3 set-ups with choate stocks...
6ppc Remington 700 with varmit stock and Leupold 36X
(shot a .005 3 shot group)
220 Swift Remington 700 with varmit stock BSA platinum scope ( shot 6- 3 shot groups in the 3's)
223 Savage (accu-trigger)with Sniper stock and BSA Platinum scope
shoots in the 2's and 3's all day long..
Send me your e-mail address i will send you the targets...


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My bad,as both BSA and Choate are commonplace BR phenoms and are capably demonstrated on both the Palma and Olympic Teams.

Or somethin' like that...................(grin)


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Stick, Stick, Stick....such heavy sarcasm emanating from your radiantly calm personality is entirely unbeknownst to me!
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The stock is designed to be heavy. It is designed to shoot rodents at long range and with a varmint type heavy barreld rifle in the choat stock you get a very heavy and stable rifle. This improves accuracy, reduces recoil and allows you to see your impacts.

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I know I know....sigh. Shoulda thought about wanting to lug it around every once in a blue moon before buying it, huh?


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Mat ,
I picked the Choate as a quick and dirty stock to work out bugs in swap bbl system, they are ugly, however they shoot extremely well, and when swapping bbls I remove the action from the stock, switch bbls then replace, much to my suprise no change of POI! The McMillian requires hours of work to fit, Choate is a drop-in( I do a little machining for cosmetic reasons, but is not necessary for accurate shooting) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />


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