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Yep. I have shot many cloverleaf groups with it, especially in .300 magnums. It also kind of puts the hurt on large wild mammals....
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But you know, it's just so--how can I put it?--"old school." I mean a 60-year-old bullet design, with a soft point. And even though the partition is moved a little further forward than that in the 180 Partition, it will probably only retain 70% of its weight. Or at least that is what I hear. I have personally never recovered one....
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My thoughts have always been 'one caliber, one weight'. Need a heavier bullet? Go to a bigger caliber. I mostly shoot 150's in my 06 carbine, 165's in my long barreed '06. 180's in my .300H&H. 200's in a .35 Rem. and 286's in my 9.3X62. These weights for caliber seem ideal to me. Have I got it wrong?
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My thoughts have always been 'one caliber, one weight'. Need a heavier bullet? Go to a bigger caliber. I mostly shoot 150's in my 06 carbine, 165's in my long barreed '06. 180's in my .300H&H. 200's in a .35 Rem. and 286's in my 9.3X62. These weights for caliber seem ideal to me. Have I got it wrong? Not if it makes sense, as someone here once said, you only need make yourself happy! Dober
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But you know, it's just so--how can I put it?--"old school." I mean a 60-year-old bullet design, with a soft point. And even though the partition is moved a little further forward than that in the 180 Partition, it will probably only retain 70% of its weight. Or at least that is what I hear. I have personally never recovered one.... Trolling a bit JB?  The reason it's still around after some 60 years ("old school") as you put it, is because "Form Follows Function." It's function is to make dead critters out of live critters under a vast range of distances and conditions. Unlike garbage like the 8 track audio tape, the heavy for caliber Partitions will not soon dive into obsolescence. Wayne
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 heck I hear tell that Nozler is gonna make their 220 semi with a plastic tip......<g> Heck of a yote rifle I say! Dober
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What we really need is a 250-grain 308 caliber Nosler Partition. Load 'em in a Krag. Then we'll see some real penetration.
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Damn, if the 'yotes op in the H. Hills are getting so big that we need a plastic tipped 220 Partition to drop em, I'm taking a 50 BMG on my next calling trip.  Wayne
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Dogzapper,
Just curious, but were they shooting at targets to look at then, or the system they've been using for about 10 years now, where there is no target..........They use the a computer system that measures the approximate bullet impact through lasers and sound displacement I believe.
I was sorely dissapointed when I took that tour to find out that they rarely ever verify that the bullets are going where the computer said they were.
Matt, Paper targets ... paper targets. Very impressive, one-hole paper targets. Gail has been gone from Nosler for fully eight or ten years; he moved to the SW and joined his wife in a web biz. I miss him a lot. The visit I'm talking about must have been eleven or twelve years ago. It was a time when I was really delighted to be freshly retired from my money job and writing about gunny stuff. Boy did that honeymoon end!!!!!! Steve
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Dogzapper,
Just curious, but were they shooting at targets to look at then, or the system they've been using for about 10 years now, where there is no target..........They use the a computer system that measures the approximate bullet impact through lasers and sound displacement I believe.
I was sorely dissapointed when I took that tour to find out that they rarely ever verify that the bullets are going where the computer said they were.
Matt, Paper targets ... paper targets. Very impressive, one-hole paper targets. Gail has been gone from Nosler for fully eight or ten years; he moved to the SW and joined his wife in a web biz. I miss him a lot. The visit I'm talking about must have been eleven or twelve years ago. It was a time when I was really delighted to be freshly retired from my money job and writing about gunny stuff. Boy did that honeymoon end!!!!!! Steve Steve, To retire simply means to willingly, and knowingly, sack your boss. I hope you realize that your contribution to others has not ceased. Spill your guts man, and re-live your life though those who would willingly and appreciatively listen. I already booked a front row seat. John
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Save a seat for me, I'm ready!!
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I've only been hunting with my 300 win for a few years now. I only shoot one bullet; a 200 NP. I really don't think I'm going to switch to anything else. I like having one load that will work for antelope to an almost any angle shot on an elk.
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DZ and Mule Deer-the 30 cal bullet I used the most (aside from the 165 Sierra HPBT) is the 200 Nozler. Not so much cause I felt the need for the heavy dog but mainly caused it flew so darn good that I felt like super man when I used it....<g>
My experience has been that is one hellish accurate bullet!
Dober THAT must be why I like the 200gr Partition in my 06AI's so much.......  Casey
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I sure like the 200gr partition in my 300 Ultra, it is about the only bullet I shoot out of it.
It shoots very well at 3100+.
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The 8mm 200-gn Partition is also a steller performer, on paper or longer-range targets at least. It may well be the most accurate bullet from my Kimber.
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My 300WM loves the 200 NP, I have pulled my best groups with that round, And it does a heck of a number on anything you shoot with it!
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Geez, I'm glad to hear that two years of praising that 200 grain Partition on this forum isn't being dissed by at least a few guys that have been up to their elbows in elk blood. Wayne
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I loaded a box of 30-06 using 220 gr partitions and 4831 for a friend to use on his woods bison hunt. One shot was not good for the 2200 pound bison at all. Since then, he has used some of the rest of the box on other hunts, and they are not good for moose or bear either.  Ted
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I loaded a box of 30-06 using 220 gr partitions and 4831 for a friend to use on his woods bison hunt. One shot was not good for the 2200 pound bison at all. Since then, he has used some of the rest of the box on other hunts, and they are not good for moose or bear either. Ted Ever use the 200gr Speers?
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I've never shot the 220 gr. Nosler Partitions but do use the Hornady 220's. Try anywhere from 51 to 54 grains of IMR4350 and you might be amazed at the tight groups they will shoot.
I also use 200 gr. Speers and they shoot very well also.
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