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Paul, didn't take you long to put the .308 together. The flutes look neat.
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IIRC, during the mid-1990s Weatherby had their Mark V actions made in Saco, ME, by Saco Defense, the same outfit that made the Colt Light Rifles and, long ago, made M-60 machine guns for the U.S. Military. I don't think that Saco Defense still makes the Weatherby actions, but I don't know where they are made, so I could be wrong.
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Mickey,
It turned out great! and shoots even better! Thanks again for the work!
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IIRC, during the mid-1990s Weatherby had their Mark V actions made in Saco, ME, by Saco Defense, the same outfit that made the Colt Light Rifles and, long ago, made M-60 machine guns for the U.S. Military. I don't think that Saco Defense still makes the Weatherby actions, but I don't know where they are made, so I could be wrong.
Jeff Jeff, I knew they got somebody in the U.S. to build their rifles at some time back but didn't realize that it was so far back. Time does get away from me. I've not read any of the gun rags in many years so don't keep up with the goings on with different manufacturers. I have no idea who builds their stuff now. If it's Howa, though, it's good.
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How much is a Howa action going for. Might be a platform for an inexpensive build for a loaner.
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Although I haven't studied the economics of using a Howa 1500 action in lieu of a Remington 700 action in any detail, I think that the after-market parts for a Remington 700 are likely to be less expensive and more common than like parts for a Howa 1500. You might start with a less expensive action/barreled action, but the higher(?) cost of the after-market parts might come close to balancing the equation. Sort of like the Bansnar/HTS vs. McM situation, where the Bansnar/HTS is less expensive, but need quite a bit of work before they are finished, while most McMs require minor fitting and a skim bedding job to finish. By the time that you finish a Bansnar/HTS stock, you probably have close to the cost of a McM into it, if you factor in any value for your time spent finishing the stock.
Currently, I only have 1 Howa 1500, a deluxe S&W in 30-06 that I keep only because of its unique SN, PN11111.
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I am getting barreled actions under $300 blued and $350 SS.
Not sure what Jeff is talking about concerning aftermarket parts, the only thing you need to change is the trigger.
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Where are you finding SS barreled actions for under $400??
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He's shopping & price quoting wholesale, unless I'm terribly mistaken.
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Yep, an FFL is a wonderful thing.
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FWIW, a good gunsmith can tune the factory trigger to a wonderful thing. I just had a good smith bed mine, recrown the tube and tune the trigger to a crisp 2 3/8 pounds for less than the cost of a Timney.
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Yep, an FFL is a wonderful thing. By FFL you mean... a Fine Flexible Lady (or two), right?
To rear children in an atmosphere of love, security, and faith is the most rewarding of all challenges. The good results from such efforts becomes life's most satisfying compensation. ~Gordon B. Hinckley
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Regarding the after-market parts, I was thinking mostly about the cost/availability of parts. The only common laminated stocks for the Howas (that I've seen) are Boyd's JRS floor joists, while the factory Remington 700 laminated Mountain Rifle stocks are pretty common and have a much better fit/finish/configuration than any of the Boyd stuff that I've handled.
Also, you can usually sell your Remington take-off parts; barrels, stocks, BDL trigger guard assemblies pretty quickly to help offset the cost of the replacement parts. I don't recall seeing many Howa 1500 take-off parts for sale, but I haven't been looking, so I could have missed them.
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Does anyone know how much the howa action's weigh?
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Yeah, I'd like to know what 30-06 factory barreled action weighs?
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Barreled action on my .300 in the above photo is 4lb 9oz. It's a 24"bbl and has a Timney trigger.
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Regarding the after-market parts, I was thinking mostly about the cost/availability of parts. The only common laminated stocks for the Howas (that I've seen) are Boyd's JRS floor joists, while the factory Remington 700 laminated Mountain Rifle stocks are pretty common and have a much better fit/finish/configuration than any of the Boyd stuff that I've handled.
Also, you can usually sell your Remington take-off parts; barrels, stocks, BDL trigger guard assemblies pretty quickly to help offset the cost of the replacement parts. I don't recall seeing many Howa 1500 take-off parts for sale, but I haven't been looking, so I could have missed them.
Jeff I've never sold any Howa take-offs simply because I've never been able to get one off with cutting a pressure relief groove just in front of the receiver. They don't use any loc-tite so they must get sumo wrasslers to put them on. I can't get one off with a four foot cheater bar on the action wrench.
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For those of you who have purchased the barreled action, what kind of accuracy are you getting with the stock barrels in big game calibers?
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A friend of mine has a 257 Weatherby Vanguard that has been bedded into a McMillan stock. With factory 100 grain ammo he can almost casually (three shots, not letting the barrel cool) bang out 3/4" 100 yard groups.
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