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It's easy to see Dan has a wealth (and pretty much a lifetime) of experience designing and building packs.
A pard who has been packbacking his whole life had Dan build him an ultralight pack a couple years ago. To this day that pard swears it's the best pack he's ever owned, the quality is second to none. Service is second to none too.
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Digging up a year old post... you're still an azzhole Dan and it shows...
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TFF! Is this guy related to Marc Taylor? Sure hate to see the owner of a company act this way. (see Marc Taylor) I've seen the web-site(McHale) and at this point would own one if I didn't have other priorities.(Kids w/ hard core sport addictions) Educating people in a "decent" way goes much farther towards the ultimate goal of a company.
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Suddenly year old posts are off limits Brad? One of your buddies sent it to me - one of your good friends here at this website. I did not have to dig anything up - I would not have known the site exists. Rather than digging something up it was more like stepping on dog____or bubble gum.
So it's a year old, have you changed? What is it exactly that makes me an azzhole? Am I an Azzhole because I won't show you my equipment? It seems like on this site more than any, a guy should be able to defend himself, but you no doubt can't take it. I don't have much more to say except that I'm so sick of priveledged little pricks like you that make up the yuppie world of gear review.
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It'll be more comfortable than a Mystery Ranch, and Kifaru especially loaded and it'll haul the same loads as Barneys. You'll like it if you get one. For beginners reading this thread, it must be pointed out that this is his opinion. He's entitled to it, and I assume it is correct for him. Keep in mind everybody is different. There are several people on this forum, experienced all, who cannot wear what is perfect for other members of this forum. I don't mean to stir the pot; but, I believe this is an important point to be made.
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It certainly IS and my personal opinions are well known here. I also think that there are "horses for courses" where gear choices is concerned and not EVERY hunter/packer NEEDS a top end expedition quality/type pack, but, SOME of us do. I know of two posters on this site who, at my suggestion in PMs, bought and are using Dan's packs and both report TOTAL satisfaction with these AND are buying a second one, each. These are guys with enough gear/packing experience that their opinions are valid, IMHO. I almost bought a pack from Dan about 1.5 years ago and I have been drooling over a "full Dyneema" version ever since. They ARE pricey, sure, but, any custom item is going to cost more than a production one and it is how it performs for YOU that really matters. I kinda think that next year, when my new income tax bill is just a horrible memory, I WILL buy one and use it as hard as my elderly carcass will stand.....and I am competely confident that I will be totally happy with it. Simply put, a company like Mchale could not have remained in business had Dan not made superb packs AND treated his customers, as he did me, absolutely properly and with respect and friendship. Maybe the worthy members of this forum should take up a collection and finance the "Kutenay Pack" for me to test and report back on?????? THEN, there is the Echol's Legend in .338WM, I mean I am HAPPY to do this for all you wonderful guys......right????? 
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This is exactly why I gave up on these forums. They are as useful to me as the extent of the garage sales anymore.
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Kute, I don't know if your post is directed at mine or what. You would be one of the people on this (and other forums you and I both frequent) who I would think would be in agreement with my post. Not trying to put words in your mouth. My apologies for my presumptiousness, if I am and was.
Like my quote of the original poster points out, that is "his" opinion and he's entitled to it. Beginners must be careful of such blanket affirmative assertions presented as fact. They need to know that what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another and they need to try for themselves. That was my point. No offense intended to you, the original poster, or anyone else who posted herein. I for one wish to try a McHale Pack based on what I've heard.
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Stillhunter. It does not look like you gave up on these forums. All I know is you expressed interest in one of my packs and this guy named Brad had to come in and say all this crap that's not true in the least. The thread was sent to me by someone. I don't hang around and lurk. I think it's sad that maybe you found a dreampack and this Brad guy paints it like it's some dinosaur from the past when it's really one of the most together machines going. I've dealt with the guy over at Backpacker. It is worse than irritating for someone like him to try and wipe out a lifetime of my work - for what? The guy claims to be able to look at photos of my packs and be able to tell how well they work? There are so many untruths in Brad's post that it goes beyond opinion to mis-information. It's easy to see how some guy like that can turn a beautiful reality to crap. There have always been people like him - ignoring them is not the way to deal with them. I deserve better even if I have to come in here and take it and kick someone in the as. It is people like him that turn people off - it's not people like me.
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Brad, It kind of takes the hot wind out of your argument when practically all of my customers have already owned and used all of the brand name packs mentioned here and that are known of elsewhere. One thing is for sure, when people aren't happy, they keep shopping. People rarely come to me first. It's sad to think people would listen to a shill like you instead of their heart. I am used to shills like you that plague the net though. By the way, what equipment is it that you fantasize I don't have that does not let me compete with the super name brands? There is nothing I lack in equipment. It is usually the other way around, with other packs having to be made to the limitations of overseas contractors. There is nothing old-school about my harness either. My Patented Bypass Harness is more advanced than anything on the US market or world markets. It is only one item in a sizeable list that makes a great pack. http://www.mchalepacks.com/sarc/04.htmRather than helping people in this forum, Brad, you seem to be more than happy to mislead and misdirect them. I don't expect you to tell anyone about my packs or to push them, but maybe if you really don't know what you are talking about, you should just keep your mouth shut. It's amazing what you are willing to say when you are actually so very ignorant. Wow...That was pure class. 
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Hey Shag, the stars are lining up so it's OK. I can't believe I've found one of the homes of the Wiggy Wars. It's just a few threads away! And then, I'm looking through there, and I find some posts by Marc Taylor! Give me some credit, I gotta be doing something right. I really was hoping it was Marc Taylor the Cop, that channeled the warrior Zaphrael. I am 6', 190 lbs, just like him.........
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I've been eyeballing the McHales for a long time and can't wait to get one. I've a lot of packs though, and can't resist trying new stuff...new for me, that is.
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I haven't had an Osprey pack, but I can't say enough about the enjoyment of dealing with Dan, or the comfort and practicality of using his products, of which I have two. He has been the exact opposite of what I've experienced with some of the gunsmiths out there. You know, lots of promises, warm fuzzies up front, then triple the time promised, then you can't reach them, then they are in the hospital, and on and on then you get your gun back and the results are Barney Fife-like.....so bad you don't want them to even try to make it right, and you send it to someone else. This is NOT Dan McHale, he's top drawer!
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Through request from others on this forum I contacted Dan and have chatted w/ him numerous times about setting up a pack for me. I am still not sure which dirrection I want to go but Dan has been a wealth of info and been more than patient w/ all my ?'s even though he is a busy man. From my exper. I think he has been nothing but an assest to me in tring to find the pack I want.--Allen--
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Stillhunter. It does not look like you gave up on these forums. Believe me; I sure have. I passed on your pack, simply because I removed the need for wildly heavy load hauling. The Crescent series does exactly what I need for substantially less cost. The decision was simple math; not relegating your packs to lackluster. Like you, I was directed to this thread by third party. I would have never seen it otherwise. Best to you.
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Like you, I was directed to this thread by third party. I would have never seen it otherwise. ?? Looks like you started the thread? Whoever started it, thanks, I hadn't heard of McHales before. And as far as the "classiness" or lack thereof of McHalesNavy's comments, all I'll say is that if I were a small business purveyor of gear and I thought someone was mis-representing my product and manufacturing capabilities, I'd respond exactly the same way.
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Here's my take on the McHale packs... NO I haven't used one so it's just my opinion having looked them over. That opinion, however, comes from having used internals of over a dozen makes starting in 1970's so, while it's just one man's opinion, it doesn't come out of thin air.
**WARNING** take a big chill pill before reading my comments.
There, is that enough pre-qualification?
More will follow at the end (grin).
The packs strike me as essentially no different suspension and harness-wise to the Lowe's we were using in the 1970's. The shoulder straps and belt have little articulation and because the packs are built in a small shop, McHale doesn't have access to the foam laminating equipment (expensive!) that makes for a comfortable (thremomolded) hip belt and shoulder straps. The packs seemingly try to make up for this by using two straps on the hipbelt to "curve" the belt over the illiac crest. They also look mighty thin padding-wise.
Sorry, but I think the advances Dana (and others) made with suspension's in the late 80's early 90's and the thremomolded belts and straps that came along then left McHale packs behind in "almost" every way.
Just because something is high priced and "custom made" doesn't mean it's better... in this case I believe it isn't.
I will grant the packs are wonderfully simple and, because of that, are nicely light. They're also absolutely bullets! I truly wish a Co. like Arc'teryx would build a simple Cordura sack with dual daisy chains on their Bora Suspension... now THAT would be something. Ditto Osprey on the Crescent suspension.
So, in the end, I look at McHale's as alpine packs, not backpacking packs.
Anyway, final qualification: if someone is willing to spring for a McHale for me I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong. But I doubt it.
But I'm more than willing to be wrong (grin)...
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Yup, it's a real bitch to offer an opinion giving credit to perceived good points and pointing out perceived shortfalls. Especially with all the pre-qualifications offered at the beginning of the "offending post"... I'll notice McHale can't comment on the fact I pointed out good and bad (a friggin opinion) in a kind way, nor can he offer a counter to some of the negative points... all he can do is offer a personal attack.
Dug up a year old post to start a personal attack. Yup, no class.
He's done the same to others on other forums and is here with his typical nasty attitude...
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Well, here's a question for both of you guys, what about the foam laminating equipment referenced in Brad's post? Is Brad's statement true or false? If it's true, I'd tend to agree with you Brad.
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